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post #1 of 27 Old 12-05-2017, 07:44 PM Thread Starter
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I got a question about oil consumption and if what I'm seeing is normal. Not sure if this is the right place or not, if it isn't, I apologize.

Sometime earlier this year, I brought my car into Honda because there was a leak a the valve cover gasket if I remember correctly. Shortly after, I brought it somewhere for maintenance, and was told there was no oil in my car, that was around June. After I got the maintenance done, I did the oil change myself. Since then, I had to add another quart of oil, I think tonight would be the second or third time, where when I checked, there was barely any oil on the dipstick. Added another quart and it was about halfway between the two holes.

Driving conditions are more or less the same, in the past year or so, traffic has been worse so more stop and go, but before they change the valve cover gasket, I was never this low on oil before, even with the leak.

Checked the percentage on the oil, and it's down to 20%. Not sure if that is normal or not. Any help would be appreciated.

If any other information is needed, let me know.

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So you checked oil level in June, then again in December? How many miles did you put on between your two oil level checks?

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CHECK your oil weekly, if level is between the 2 dots add a half qt., keep a written record of consumption until you can get a handle on what is going on. Running on low oil will stretch the timing chain if you have a 4 cyl.

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So you checked oil level in June, then again in December? How many miles did you put on between your two oil level checks?
I changed my oil in June, I believe I checked it sometime a few months later and remember adding another quart before tonight, can't remember when though. I drive about 60 miles a day to and from work, so lets say 65 to overshoot it in the rare time I go somewhere. Subtracting my vacation, an overshoot would be about 7200 miles, if I assume the beginning of June to be when I changed it. I know I've added another quart of oil at some point, but can't' remember exactly when. My car still say I have about 20% of the oil left.

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CHECK your oil weekly, if level is between the 2 dots add a half qt., keep a written record of consumption until you can get a handle on what is going on. Running on low oil will stretch the timing chain if you have a 4 cyl.
Thank, and yes I have a 4 cyl. I had plan to take a picture of the dipstick to tomorrow morning and then again next week to see the difference, but it's probably better if I do what you said to see the oil consumption.
Another question, in the time when I was younger and stupider, I bought the oil from Honda, and used the last bottle in my car earlier to bring the levels up a bit. Would it be better if I kept using the Honda one for this test, or can I buy Mobil 1 oil?

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Use the Mobil 1, purchase Walmart in a 5 qt. jug, get a funnel.

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Use the Mobil 1, purchase Walmart in a 5 qt. jug, get a funnel.
Okay thanks, will do.

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+1 for Mobil 1, Quaker State is also good from what I hear. But I use Mobil 1 in my Honda. Checking your oil on the same day every week is also a good idea. It will give you a good idea of exactly how much oil the car is consuming and how much you're adding back every week/month/over what mileage. Check the owner's manual and see what it says about when to check the oil. Some cars you're supposed to let it sit and cool down for a few hours before checking the oil, some you're supposed to check when the engine is still warm.


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You mentioned that the maintenance place told you that there was no oil in the engine. If that's true, your engine has been compromised and that's the issue now. I suggest take it in and see what Honda can do for you if you have any of the powertrain warranty left. If no warranty left, then you may have to continue adding oil for as long as the engine lasts or pay out of pocket to get it fixed. I couldn't see putting a lot of money into an almost 5 year old Accord but that's obviously up to you.

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Shortly after, I brought it somewhere for maintenance, and was told there was no oil in my car, that was around June.

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How far do you think you drove with no oil in it? That alone may be your problem now.

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Can someone point me to the correct Mobil 1 synthetic oil to use (2017 Accord LX)? Is this okay?



The manual says to use 0W - 20
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Yeah this sounds a bit scary, hopefully your car is still under the 5yr/60K warranty...
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Can someone point me to the correct Mobil 1 synthetic oil to use (2017 Accord LX)? Is this okay?



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May I interest you in my newest book, How to Pick Oil for Your Car?

Here is a preview version:

1. Confirm the grade you need

2. See what's on sale

3. Make sure it's from a reputable brand(Castrol, Pennzoil, Mobil 1, Quaker State, etc.)

4. Pay for it

5. Enjoy life. Don't forget to check your oil level every other time you get gas!

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5w-20 vs 0w-20

If you ever get really interested in differences between oils, go to any brand's Specification page (MSDS, or similar page), and compare the viscosity numbers at operating temperatures, as well as the Flash points. As some have pointed out on other websites, apparently the base oils used in the 0w-xx weights tend to have better specs than the base oil used in the 5w-xx weights. Many thought it might be useful to use a 5w-20 in the hotter months and 0w-20 in the colder months...turns out to not be true.

Checking the specs has convinced me to always go with the 0w-20 Pennzoil over the 5w-20 Pennzoil. I prefer this brand due to the base lubricant being derived from Natural Gas....seems like Natural Gas would have less contaminates than Crude oil....from which the other Group III base oils originate.
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"Synthetic" is not a literal definition of a laboratory-created base lubricant, it has been a marketing term since the Castrol Mobil-1 lawsuit in the 1990's.
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You said you brought the car to Honda dealer for leak in valve cover gasket and subsequently was told by somebody else there was no oil.

Does the dealer's paperwork list the "mileage out" after they worked on the car? (Mine always does.) Does the paperwork from the other maintenance guy list the mileage in or out?

And does the dealer's paperwork show charges for parts/labor to add oil after the gasket was replaced? I assume they would routinely check the oil level after replacing the gasket. So either they didn't add oil to the full mark or car consumed a lot in however many miles were driven between the dealer's out mileage and the maintenance guy's in mileage.

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