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post #16 of 33 Old 12-08-2017, 08:19 AM
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That's obscene. As RickBlaine said, it's easy. Drain the radiator, refill with new coolant, allow engine to idle ~10 minutes or so to burp air bubbles out & you're done.
I haven't researched this car yet, but you sure there's no bleed screws? Service depts don't bother with waiting for the car to warm up, thermostat to open. They use a special vacuum fill tool which ensures there's no air pockets -


. I used this on the G (which is notorious being a pain to bleed) few years ago without even having to bother with any bleed screws.

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I don't know about the 9th gen, but on my car there are no bleed screws for the coolant. Brakes, yes, but not coolant.

You don't need them anyhow. Leave the radiator cap off, let the engine run a bit and the bubbles come out.


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I haven't researched this car yet, but you sure there's no bleed screws? Service depts don't bother with waiting for the car to warm up, thermostat to open. They use a special vacuum fill tool which ensures there's no air pockets - . I used this on the G (which is notorious being a pain to bleed) few years ago without even having to bother with any bleed screws.
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My car is at 60k miles and I just like to stay on top of the fluid changes.

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Well, being that coolant is like $10/gallon and you need less than two, I'd say it's a tad high.
I would love to know where you're getting type II for $10/Gal.
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I paid CAN$90(12% tax included) for a coolant flush on my RX-8. It's around CAN$20 for parts and CAN$60ish for labor.

That said, I found the coolant just be a bit low on the car after driving the car for a bit. The coolant was at the min line when the car was fully warmed up(it's supposed to be about an inch above the max line when fully warmed up). I bought a jug of coolant, topped it up and kept it around.

Moral of the story: if you have someone else do it, make sure you check the level.

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Maybe the new type stuff isn't but the old type stuff sure is.
Don't let your animals near it.
The older types of coolant is not only poisonous, but also tastes sweet and attracts pets/trash pandas or even young children. Part of the reason I didn't attempt my own change is because I don't want to find dead raccoons near my car.

The newer types of coolant supposedly tastes bitter. Yes, I have some Mazda FL-22 coolant in my garage. No, I am not going to verify the taste.

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I never had a problem with trapped air, when I did coolant changes in the 03 V6. If you follow the procedure, the air comes out. I changed the coolant when I did the timing belt, and drained the coolant from the engine block too. You should never need a flush, unless someone put some other/wrong type of coolant in, and you need to get it all out. Most people who do a coolant flush end up with less than a 50/50 mix.

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Yeah Gents, thanks for pointing this out about coolant and pets. For the last 5 years or so, manufacturers have added a bitter agent to get rid of the sweetness which attracted and killed so many pets and wildlife.

Coolant can be recycled for free in the USA. Some auto parts stores take it, some do not. Some counties take it, some do not.

Here in Crook County (I mean Cook County, IL) we have a website dedicated to recycling electronic and auto fluid waste. Love Ma Earth!

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I'm not sure if it's a state or local ordinance around here (also crook county), but local auto shops have to accept used oil and other automotive chemicals.

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Yeah Gents, thanks for pointing this out about coolant and pets. For the last 5 years or so, manufacturers have added a bitter agent to get rid of the sweetness which attracted and killed so many pets and wildlife.

Coolant can be recycled for free in the USA. Some auto parts stores take it, some do not. Some counties take it, some do not.

Here in Crook County (I mean Cook County, IL) we have a website dedicated to recycling electronic and auto fluid waste. Love Ma Earth!

That's good to know...I didn't 'till now. Even back in the day when I did all my own maintenance work I hesitated to do coolant changes 'cause of my dogs.

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Funny timing with the prices to change coolant. Took my car in for oil change and tire rotate today, to a new to me shop, AAA approved, good ratings on Yelp, etc. $84 for that. They recommended coolant exchange for $178, among other things.

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All of your important fluids have similar effects when we only drain and fill. Therefore, today, we highly recommend more proper exchanges. We have made some smart investments into equipment in our shop that allows us to handle the exchange and drain better. We currently use BG’s fluid exchanging machines. Each one has a dedicated purpose for specific fluids.
Thinking I will let them do the brakes and I'll do a simple drain and fill the radiator.

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That's good to know...I didn't 'till now. Even back in the day when I did all my own maintenance work I hesitated to do coolant changes 'cause of my dogs.
The stuff is still poison! The bittering agent makes it less likely that a dog, cat, feral pig, possum, skunk, etc will find it appetizing and lick it- but it will still paralyze and kill.

You can recall the old days where even the smell of coolant was "sweet". I remember reading that coolant had a taste 10 times more "sweet" than did sugar. My local Advance Auto won't take coolant- but there is an independent repair shop near me that does. The guy always laughs and says it looks so good- he will sell it as new (he is kidding, of course).

Last warning- the newer coolants have the bittering agent, but if you buy a used car that has 5+ year old coolant in there, it may taste sweet.
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Drain and fill is probably fine.

If you want to "flush", get a spill free funnel.
Drain and fill once.
Let car idle for maybe 20 mins.
Put a large drain pan/bucket under radiator.
Open stop ****.
Pour through 2-3 gallons coolant.
Close stop ****.
Done.

If you want to get really fancy you can run through a couple gallons of distilled water and wait for the rad to drain clear, then replace that with coolant until it drains blue. I did this to replace green coolant a shop put in my car.

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I would love to know where you're getting type II for $10/Gal.
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