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post #46 of 139 Old 08-04-2016, 02:18 PM
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"What makes it all work is the mullet of transmissions. For the new hybrid transmission, Lexus used the Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive/Lexus Hybrid System which consists of an e-CVT with a planetary gearset and two electric motors (one for charging the battery, the other for motivation and regen) and grafted a conventional four-speed automatic onto the back. The two units actually coexist in one package, with the e-CVT making things efficient and the automatic expanding the capabilities. So at the low end, the system can deliver more torque, and the engine can also run at lower rpm on the highway. It's all thanks to those fixed gear ratios, and it's surprisingly simple."



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I have to high jack this thread by asking you Graycar if you have been thinking of getting a DCT car or possibly a 17 Ridgeline 😅😁

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lol, I'm just under 144K miles on mine. The CVT seems to be doing it's job quite nicely.

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I have to high jack this thread by asking you Graycar if you have been thinking of getting a DCT car or possibly a 17 Ridgeline 😅😁
Not getting either. Staying with the 6-6.

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Not getting either. Staying with the 6-6.

Cool.

Too bad Flyboy isn't going to drive a MT anytime soon. Not even to test drive one with 6/6 MT coupe or civic Turbo CVT for free and seamlessly at CARMAX. He has definitely changed ever since he took home the "CVT crystal ball" aka his CVT car. It
Would be very interesting for us to read his "professional opinionated review"
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I'd prefer a conventional AT rather than the CVT myself, but it is what it is. As far as a preference between AT or MT, I really could go either way. I learned to drive using MT, and 4 of the cars that I've owned were MTs. I've mainly bought ATs so the wife would be able to drive them.

But its been a while since I drove an MT. The last time was when I was in Japan, and I was designated to drive because none of the other people could drive MT. And it was made worse by the fact that I'm a right handed person, and I had to drive on the left side of the road AND shift using my left hand. Now that was a challenge. I don't know how the Japanese, Brits, and Aussies do it.
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I'm sure the Accord CVT is fine but at least the MT versions don't have any TSBs. o_0
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I can't stand CVTs. I don't like the way they drive...I get the concept of holding the engine at the best RPM for power, but it just doesn't feel right. Cars should have gears in my opinion.

I'd rather have a traditional automatic if I can't have a manual.
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I think it instructive to note that Honda has developed a 10-speed conventional automatic transmission that will be used in future V6 applications. This replaces the current problem-prone ZF 9-speed.



So, it appears that Honda will not be totally committing to the CVT, as in the case of Nissan. Good news, IMO.
I find it very interesting that Honda or anyone else would build a ten speed automatic when a CVT will achieve the same goal with less moving parts. Why not a 12 or a 14 gear transmission? A CVT actually has an infinite number of 'gear' ratios with less complexity. The CVT can be programmed to act like it has as many gear ratios as the engineers want.

The author of the article was driving an Acura and not a Honda. He is speculating that the ten speed transmission will be available on the 10th generation Accord V6. Like everyone else he doesn't even know if Honda will continue to offer a V6 in the Accord. I can see that the V6 and the geared transmissions will be reserved for the Acura line and the Accord will be offered with I4 engines either turbocharged or normally aspirated all with a CVT.

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I find it very interesting that Honda or anyone else would build a ten speed automatic when a CVT will achieve the same goal with less moving parts. Why not a 12 or a 14 gear transmission? A CVT actually has an infinite number of 'gear' ratios with less complexity. The CVT can be programmed to act like it has as many gear ratios as the engineers want.

The author of the article was driving an Acura and not a Honda. He is speculating that the ten speed transmission will be available on the 10th generation Accord V6. Like everyone else he doesn't even know if Honda will continue to offer a V6 in the Accord. I can see that the V6 and the geared transmissions will be reserved for the Acura line and the Accord will be offered with I4 engines either turbocharged or normally aspirated all with a CVT.
I would try to explain this to you, but we have been around this flag pole many, many times to no avail. You consistently present the same simplistic CVT dog and pony show, and criticize those who prefer other types transmissions, characterizing them as whiners.

You have a closed-mind preference for CVT that excludes any reasonable, technical discussion of the pros and cons of the different types of transmissions.
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The game is on! Whoo hoo!

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I would try to explain this to you, but we have been around this flag pole many, many times to no avail. You consistently present the same simplistic CVT dog and pony show, and criticize those who prefer other types transmissions, characterizing them as whiners.

You have a closed-mind preference for CVT that excludes any reasonable, technical discussion of the pros and cons of the different types of transmissions.
Don't think I could have said it better myself...
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I would try to explain this to you, but we have been around this flag pole many, many times to no avail. You consistently present the same simplistic CVT dog and pony show, and criticize those who prefer other types transmissions, characterizing them as whiners.

You have a closed-mind preference for CVT that excludes any reasonable, technical discussion of the pros and cons of the different types of transmissions.
Who appointed you the official person to explain anything to another member of the forum? I would never use the terms 'simplistic' or 'dog and pony show' in describing another member's comments or opinions. I never criticized anyone's opinion on anything. I just asked the question why more gears eventually begins to emulate a CVT with lots of moving parts and complexity.

The author of the article you cited test drove an Acura with a ten speed automatic transmission and only speculated that it would be offered on the next generation Accords with a V6 engine. He has no evidence that Honda will even continue to offer a V6 on the Accord much less equipping it with that transmission.

I do not have a closed mind about technical discussions of types of automatic transmissions but I do think the CVT is the wave of the future even on higher torque engines. You may respectfully disagree.

BTW This discussion thread is titled 'CVT's Are Awesome...?' and I agree they are awesome.

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