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Resetting Specific Items in MM?

I read in the instructions for changing CVT fluid to reset specific items using "HDS"

Is this dealer only specific equipment or is it a different process I have access to?

Brings up a deeper question. When you change the oil and reset the MM on the dashboard does it reset ALL maintenance tasks including all the sub level items?

Kind of confusing to understand what the MM is telling me if I don't understand what resetting it does.

Couldn't find my answer in searches of previous threads

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When you reset the MM, all codes that popped up are cleared and reset. We know that oil life % is tied directly to how you drive the car (shorter trips = faster oil life decline). And we also know from the manual that any other maintenance codes that are due will show up only when the oil life gets to 15%.

What we don't know is whether those sub-codes are similarly tied to how you drive or whether they just have a simple mileage trigger that makes them due.


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When you reset the MM, all codes that popped up are cleared and reset. We know that oil life % is tied directly to how you drive the car (shorter trips = faster oil life decline). And we also know from the manual that any other maintenance codes that are due will show up only when the oil life gets to 15%.

What we don't know is whether those sub-codes are similarly tied to how you drive or whether they just have a simple mileage trigger that makes them due.
Interesting the other second level reminders won't trigger until the oil is at 15%. So if one is anal or proactive (depending on your viewpoint) and changes oil sooner than 15% you can miss any other reminders. That an accurate statement?

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Interesting the other second level reminders won't trigger until the oil is at 15%. So if one is anal or proactive (depending on your viewpoint) and changes oil sooner than 15% you can miss any other reminders. That an accurate statement?
Yes. If you don't wait until the oil life gets to 15% you will never see the maintenance codes so you'll have no idea what is due. Your MM will assume you did the maintenance and reset the codes that would have come up.

The simple answer to this problem is to follow the owner's manual. Which says to change your oil when the MM tells you to. And do whatever other maintenance comes up at that time. This is so simple but there are plenty of debates on DA on when to do this, that or the other maintenance.

And in the interest of full disclosure, there is a method you can use to see maintenance codes for upcoming maintenance without having to wait for the oil life to get to 15%. If you follow the MM reset procedure but stop one step short of actually resetting it, at step 3 you will see the codes that will show up the next time the oil life gets to 15%. If you then proceed to step 4 (Press the Select/Reset knob for 5 seconds), you will reset the oil life and the other MM codes.

Here's the reset procedure straight out of the owners manual:

1. Turn the ignition switch to ON.
2. Display the engine oil life by repeatedly pressing the Select/Reset knob.
3. Press and hold the knob for ten seconds or more. (The engine oil life indicator and the maintenance item codes blink.)
4. Press the Select/Reset knob for 5 seconds or more.
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So how does the above apply to those of us who change their oil once a year while the MM is still at 40-50%?

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So how does the above apply to those of us who change their oil once a year while the MM is still at 40-50%?
Great question. Wonder what the dealer would say? Or better yet, email Honda of America and see what they say.

One option would be to not reset the MM when you change oil and just let it run. So use the calendar to track your annual oil changes and the MM can handle everything else. You would just ignore the oil life % displayed.

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I suppose that's one way to do it. Sort of defeats the purpose of the MM. OTOH, If few miles are put on the car and primarily short trips, other maintenance intervals should be shorted too.

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I suppose that's one way to do it. Sort of defeats the purpose of the MM. OTOH, If few miles are put on the car and primarily short trips, other maintenance intervals should be shorted too.
Hmm. Thinking about what other maintenance items might change due to short drive cycles.

Brake fluid is 3 years regardless of mileage. I would think brakes, tranny fluid, spark plugs, air cleaner and cabin filter would be tied to actual mileage without regard to drive cycle length. But I'm just guessing.

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Threads like this sort or boggle my mind. The maintenance monitor has been around for about 10 years now. From my own personal experience it is very easy to use and understand. People seem to fear this new fangled contraption for very little good reason in my opinion. It does require that the owner read the manual and pay some attention to the codes. Maybe that's too much to ask of customers?

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Threads like this sort or boggle my mind. The maintenance monitor has been around for about 10 years now. From my own personal experience it is very easy to use and understand. People seem to fear this new fangled contraption for very little good reason in my opinion. It does require that the owner read the manual and pay some attention to the codes. Maybe that's too much to ask of customers?
In general I agree. People way overthink something that Honda has made dead simple. Been using MM since 2009.

That said, GPz1100 does bring up a valid situation that the manual does not address and the MM is not engineered to deal with.

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So how does the above apply to those of us who change their oil once a year while the MM is still at 40-50%?
Can do it the old fashioned way by miles and calendar. There is a scheduled maint list
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Can do it the old fashioned way by miles and calendar. There is a scheduled maint list
No scheduled maintenance list other than replace brake fluid every 3 years. There are some unusual conditions listed in the manual, but otherwise there is no scheduled maintenance schedule other than the MM.

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No scheduled maintenance list other than replace brake fluid every 3 years. There are some unusual conditions listed in the manual, but otherwise there is no scheduled maintenance schedule other than the MM.
Tomorrow on my work computer I have a pdf I got in the past week, I'll post it up

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OK - but I'm skeptical. Because there is no maintenance schedule in the owner's manual other than "follow the MM". Dealerships will invent their own and mail that to you to get you to spend more money, but that's a dealership fabrication and not the actual maintenance plan that Honda specifies in their manual.

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That said, GPz1100 does bring up a valid situation that the manual does not address and the MM is not engineered to deal with.
I disagree. The manual does reasonably deal with it and how do you know the MM is not engineered to deal with his scenario? And should all maintenance intervals really be shortened on low mileage cars? BTW, the MM is not just a simple mileage meter and the secondary codes do not all just pop up at the same preset mileage.


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