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post #1 of 20 Old 07-07-2015, 01:13 PM Thread Starter
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CVT fluid change as part of 2nd service

I have a 2014 Accord EX-L I4 CVT purchased in Aug 2014. At 22,160 miles and with the MM at 5%, I performed my 2nd scheduled maintenance today. The MM was showing "B1" so I changed the engine oil (Mobil 1) and oil filter (OEM), rotated the tires, and checked all of the "B" items as required in the owner's manual. Everything was good. Since I felt like throwing money away (OK, really I was curious), I also drained and refilled the CVT with OEM CVT fluid. The old fluid looked pretty clean to me, not much different in color or clarity than the new fluid I put in. Interestingly, 3.78 quarts drained from the CVT so I put 3.8 quarts in and then pulled the check bolt after following the "check CVT fluid procedure"--about 0.1 quarts dripped out so I'm guessing my CVT came from the factory very slightly over-filled. I think I'm going to continue to waste money and change the CVT fluid every other oil change. Or maybe not--I'll see.

So far, so good regarding operating costs. And, with an average MPG of 36.4, I'm pretty happy with the car!

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Would it be overkill? Probably...but, I don't think it would hurt. I just had mine changed at 13K under a warranty/TSB issue so my first change will prob. be between 30 and 45K miles, for sure.

I am curious - does the engine cover on the bottom have a slot cut out to drain the transmission fluid or did you have to take off the plastic cover? My old 2011 EX-L didn't have a pre-cut hole to drain the fluid and I had to take a dremel to it.

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I am curious - does the engine cover on the bottom have a slot cut out to drain the transmission fluid or did you have to take off the plastic cover? My old 2011 EX-L didn't have a pre-cut hole to drain the fluid and I had to take a dremel to it.

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No plastic has to be removed as I could get to all of the bolts needed on the CVT easily. I did have some splashing (the CVT fluid really comes out) that I had to wipe up (off of metal and parts of the plastic undertray, but nothing too significant.

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that MM in my sport is crazy. it stayed on 100% for four months and then this month in less than one week ( two checks ) it went straight from 100% to 90%.

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that MM in my sport is crazy. it stayed on 100% for four months and then this month in less than one week ( two checks ) it went straight from 100% to 90%.

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It should go from 100 to 90 and it will go from 90 to 80 etc. when it gets to 20 it will go to 15 then to 10, 5, and 0. If you still haven't reset when it reaches 0 it will start displaying miles since 0.

If you are conservative or do mostly highway trips it will take longer to go down. Sounds like you are OK.

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I have a 2014 Accord EX-L I4 CVT purchased in Aug 2014. At 22,160 miles and with the MM at 5%, I performed my 2nd scheduled maintenance today. The MM was showing "B1" so I changed the engine oil (Mobil 1) and oil filter (OEM), rotated the tires, and checked all of the "B" items as required in the owner's manual. Everything was good. Since I felt like throwing money away (OK, really I was curious), I also drained and refilled the CVT with OEM CVT fluid. The old fluid looked pretty clean to me, not much different in color or clarity than the new fluid I put in. Interestingly, 3.78 quarts drained from the CVT so I put 3.8 quarts in and then pulled the check bolt after following the "check CVT fluid procedure"--about 0.1 quarts dripped out so I'm guessing my CVT came from the factory very slightly over-filled. I think I'm going to continue to waste money and change the CVT fluid every other oil change. Or maybe not--I'll see.

So far, so good regarding operating costs. And, with an average MPG of 36.4, I'm pretty happy with the car!

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I've been thinking about doing something like this after my first CVT fluid change at around 50,000 miles (5th oil change/maint). It can't hurt, especially when you realize that not all the fluid gets changed since there is still some in the torque converter.

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that MM in my sport is crazy. it stayed on 100% for four months and then this month in less than one week ( two checks ) it went straight from 100% to 90%.

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Mine went from 100--90 in 1000kms or 3 weeks. Same with my 8th gen based on my driving it goes down 10% every 1000kms... this will equate to just under 10,000km oil changes.

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This reminds me of the story of the Old woman who is attending the funeral service of a famous actor. During the eulogy the woman screams out, "Give him some chicken soup". The man delivering the eulogy replies, "Madam it won't help, he's dead". She replies, "It wouldn't hurt".

As long as my transmission is operating as smooth as silk, why change anything until it's called for in the maintenance schedule?

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This reminds me of the story of the Old woman who is attending the funeral service of a famous actor. During the eulogy the woman screams out, "Give him some chicken soup". The man delivering the eulogy replies, "Madam it won't help, he's dead". She replies, "It wouldn't hurt".

As long as my transmission is operating as smooth as silk, why change anything until it's called for in the maintenance schedule?
Your question ignores one of the ways of getting "all" of the fluid changed, the 3-change method. It's just personal preference. I'm not one to overly maintain a car. E.g., I don't change my oil before the MM says to, but if someone wants to change all the transmission fluid, then to each his own.

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Not quite right anology. The guy is dead, but the car is not. If the fluid was changed every day, every week, or every month, then it could be a waste. But, if the fluid is changed at a reasonable interval like 30k, then it may not be so bad for preventive maintenance.

...and the lady's reply was wrong too. It does hurt because it will spill, stale, and stink up the whole place, and any where that body goes.

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This reminds me of the story of the Old woman who is attending the funeral service of a famous actor. During the eulogy the woman screams out, "Give him some chicken soup". The man delivering the eulogy replies, "Madam it won't help, he's dead". She replies, "It wouldn't hurt".

As long as my transmission is operating as smooth as silk, why change anything until it's called for in the maintenance schedule?
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It can't hurt but it looks like Honda has got these CVT's right. Hope they don't change some pieces to save $. Remember when GM went to a plastic sprocket for the timing gear?

Just got a CRV with a CVT. Was thinking of bypassing the check fluid step and just drain and refill with what comes out. I usually change the trans fluid at least once a year or about every other oil change on all of our cars.
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It can't hurt but it looks like Honda has got these CVT's right. Hope they don't change some pieces to save $. Remember when GM went to a plastic sprocket for the timing gear?

Just got a CRV with a CVT. Was thinking of bypassing the check fluid step and just drain and refill with what comes out. I usually change the trans fluid at least once a year or about every other oil change on all of our cars.
I might go with the drain and refill going forward, but on this first one I wanted to make sure that the level was right since I have seen things occasionally not come right from the factory so I did the check.

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Is the OEM Honda trans. fluid for CVT the only fluid that can be used or can you buy a compatible at stores?

Also how much is it per Qt at Honda?
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Honda HCF-2 CVT fluid from College Hills Honda:

I would use only Honda CVT fluid not ATF fluid.


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