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post #1 of 16 Old 05-22-2015, 10:51 PM Thread Starter
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Leak at oil filter

2014 accord sport-- Has anyone had oil leak from where the oil filter touches the block? It's really on there tight but still leaks. Not sure why it would do that with different filters. Also, can oil be sent to a lab to be tested for stop leak? I think the dealer put it in my car without telling me.

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Who did the oil change? If done by the dealer then you should take the vehicle back to them immediately.


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Why would you think there's stop leak in there?

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Sometimes the gasket from the old filter sticks to the engine and when the new filter is installed with its gasket there is a leak which could possibly cause a fire. Honda had to rewrite their owners manuals in the early 2000's because of this.

Probably best to do another oil change with a new filter and make sure that the sealing surface is clean and free of old gaskets.
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I had issues before where they forget to pre-wet the gasket with oil prior to installation. The dry gasket can pinch when the filter is being screwed on and leak. Most likely not a big deal, but you will need to go back and get a new oil and filter change.
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"14v6" and "OneHalfMex" summed up what is likely the cause.

I would add that over-tightening can also cause leaks, believe it or not. The gasket material is designed to be squeezed at a certain pressure, too much or too little tightening can cause a leak.

Please report back your findings to enlighten other members.

And just to be sure, you bought this car new and "dealer" means "Honda Dealer", correct? Not "Jim Bob's used car sales" at the edge of town? I want to make sure it is a Honda oil filter.
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Sometimes the gasket from the old filter sticks to the engine and when the new filter is installed with its gasket there is a leak which could possibly cause a fire. Honda had to rewrite their owners manuals in the early 2000's because of this.

Probably best to do another oil change with a new filter and make sure that the sealing surface is clean and free of old gaskets.
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This happens quite often
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Thanks for the replies. No, the gasket did not stick. I always wipe the oil off the area where the gasket would touch before placing the filter on. I make sure to put a little oil on the filter gasket before installing it. As for the stop leak, that question was for another issue.

I've had the infamous oil leak near the main seal since I bought the car. It has about 20k miles on it. Everytime I changed the oil, I would wipe the residual oil off and within minutes I would see it begin to slowly seep through the crack. I finally got around to taking it to the Honda dealer for a fix. 5 hours later, they informed me that they couldn't find where the leak was coming from and had to put dye in it. I call BS because I sure as hell could see where it was coming from. I was told to take it home and drive it for a few days. Odd because I've had mechanics with other cars add dye and drive it around themselves.

I take the car home, throw it on the ramps and NOTHING. No oil seeping through. I drive it 700 miles and put it on the ramps again a few days later and nothing. I find it odd that after the dealer added "dye" that all of a sudden there is no sign of oil seeping or leaking. I ended up changing the oil myself and have it saved. To settle my curiosity, I'd like to have it tested for stop leak. A leak thats been going on for that long doesn't just stop out of nowhere.
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Id imagine it might be fairly expensive to have that tested. You will have to find a lab that performs chromography testing and have them analyze your sample. I'm not sure about the pros/cons of using stop leak. The car not leaking oil is a good thing. The stop leak for the motor maybe is not good on the flip side.

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I bet they torqued the bolts up slightly. Dye is to help find the location of a leak, not to plug it up. Reminds me of the 6 cyl accord we almost bought. It had seepage at the trans case halves. Not alot, but enough to warrant concern on a brand new car.

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I wasn't sure of the cost on a test. I know that you can send in oil to labs for a fairly reasonable price and they can tell you the condition of the engine based on what they find in your oil or something to that nature. Wasn't sure if they could actually do a specific test for a reasonable price. I understand the dye is to find the leak. I just have a feeling they added the stop leak in addition to the dye. The car is a lease so at this point I will not purchase it and just turn into them in a crappy condition. It becomes their problem. This car was a dream that turned into a nightmare. Too much crap wrong with it.
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At least it is not leaking anymore. What else is going wrong with the car?

I've never leased a car before but I'd just put gas in it and take it to the dealer when the MM comes on.

This is weird especially since you could see the oil seep out again after cleaning it off.

I know you are curious about the stop leak but who knows. Did they reference anything on the invoice when you took it back to the dealer?
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I went through something similar on my '07, it was seeping between the engine and transmission when I did the first oil change. First time in the dealer claimed it was "residual assembly oil". 2nd time, the Honda dealer added dye and claimed they couldn't see the leak. When it was still leaking (3rd time, around 17k miles) I called Honda, told them I was taking the car in for the third time and expected it to be diagnosed and fixed.

When I got the car back, I sent the oil to Blackstone for an oil analysis. They couldn't tell if they were seeing break in lube or stop leak. In the end, the dealer wouldn't tell me what they did and when I sold the car at 88k miles, it wasn't leaking.
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At least it is not leaking anymore. What else is going wrong with the car?

I've never leased a car before but I'd just put gas in it and take it to the dealer when the MM comes on.

This is weird especially since you could see the oil seep out again after cleaning it off.

I know you are curious about the stop leak but who knows. Did they reference anything on the invoice when you took it back to the dealer?
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As for the dealer, I didn't bring it back because it's an act of congress trying to get enough time off work and the leak stopped for whatever reason. Since I decided to turn the car in and not buy it I guess I really can't be too concerned with these issues. Last Honda for me though. I've owned 3 others in the past.
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I went through something similar on my '07, it was seeping between the engine and transmission when I did the first oil change. First time in the dealer claimed it was "residual assembly oil". 2nd time, the Honda dealer added dye and claimed they couldn't see the leak. When it was still leaking (3rd time, around 17k miles) I called Honda, told them I was taking the car in for the third time and expected it to be diagnosed and fixed.

When I got the car back, I sent the oil to Blackstone for an oil analysis. They couldn't tell if they were seeing break in lube or stop leak. In the end, the dealer wouldn't tell me what they did and when I sold the car at 88k miles, it wasn't leaking.
Wow that's pretty much the same thing here.. Thanks for the info. Funny how once it goes to the stealership, the leak suddenly stops...

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