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post #1 of 95 Old 10-19-2014, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
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Oil Plug Crush Washers

I've not had oil leaks when I reused them on my daughter's CRV and my Mazda.

But since I just bought a new Sport I decided to spring for a pack of 50 ( around $15 on Amazon ) as I'll be doing my own oil changes.

Once they're tightened down the washer deforms and is said to provide a better seal and can't be used again.

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Oh god, here we go again.

This has been talked to death.

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I don't know why you would cheapen out and reuse a $3.33 washer. You're saving more money doing the oil change yourself. Would you reuse a condom?

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More like $0.33.

Yes.

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I don't know why you would cheapen out and reuse a $3.33 washer. You're saving more money doing the oil change yourself. Would you reuse a condom?
Why? Because the an old one simply works. People reuse it all the time without any issues. I've been doing my own oil changes for over 10 years (on various cars, motorcycles) without buying a new crush washer.

Think about it. You put the washer on. Put on the fastener and toque it to spec. The washer crushes to a certain size. An old washer is already crushed to that size. So it doesn't matter if you use a new one or old one. Both are the same size in the end.

Reusing a condom is a whole different story.

Compare apples and oranges much?

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Why? Because the an old one simply works. People reuse it all the time without any issues. I've been doing my own oil changes for over 10 years (on various cars, motorcycles) without buying a new crush washer.

Think about it. You put the washer on. Put on the fastener and toque it to spec. The washer crushes to a certain size. An old washer is already crushed to that size. So it doesn't matter if you use a new one or old one. Both are the same size in the end.

Reusing a condom is a whole different story.

Compare apples and oranges much?

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I reuse mine, twice now. not a single leak. the crushed washer tightens back down the same grooves on the pan.I have a 2000 Avalon and never changed the washer since owning it mileages. now it is at 170K no leaks.

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Why take the chance of having a stripped oil pan? Perhaps you should have purchased a fumoto valve instead.
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I have a 50 year old plastic washer on my Corvair. It doesn't leak! About the only place that doesn't. Is Honda fixing a problem that doesn't exist? I live 50 miles from the Honda dealer, I'm not driving there for a washer.

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I did used to reuse my washers, out of admitted ignorance, until I got a leak. They crush to form a seal, like crush washers on a flat shoulder spark plug. Reuse doesn't provide the same. Don't know why Honda still uses crush washers but they do and it's virtually no cost insurance.

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I rarely, if ever change the washer & been doing my own Oil changes for 30+ years. Primary reason is I never over tighten the Oil bolt, many people do however and do bend the washer. Same with Oil Filter, I just hand tighten them and never-ever have used a filter wrench

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I say reuse the washer, and every time you change your oil toss the $.30 into an interest bearing account. In a few years you'll be able to retire.




But seriously, did you really start a thread about reusing a $.30 part?
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I say reuse the washer, and every time you change your oil toss the $.30 into an interest bearing account. In a few years you'll be able to retire.




But seriously, did you really start a thread about reusing a $.30 part?
Yes and you can see the interest and difference of opinion.

I searched crush washers on this forum and came up empty. If you don't have a spare and it's a Sunday afternoon oil change you'll use what you have.

FWIW the Mazda dealership changes $2 each.

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Pages 467-468 of the 2013 Coupe Owner's Manual, under "Changing the Engine Oil and Oil Filter," step no. 7:

"Put a new washer on the drain bolt, then reinstall the drain bolt."

The drain bolt torque values are also listed under step 7.

But at end of the day, it is your car and your money, and you assume the risk of not following the manufacturer's specified procedures.

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I have a bag of crush washers on the same shelf as all my other fluids. $6 worth will last 10 years worth of oil changes every 6 months. One less thing to worry about failing. I can't understand why people would cut such an inexpensive corner.

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Most people reuse them; do they really "crush"?

Most people reuse them with no problem. Can anyone be sure that if oil is changed by the dealer or your local service station that they use a new one?

If you are going to the trouble of changing your own oil, buy a bunch at your convenience and use new ones.

Some manufacturers use copper crush washers* because the actually do crush. Not so sure about aluminum deforming when the drain bolt is torqued to factory specs.

Replace the plug with a Fumoto oil drain valve and you'll never have to buy another crush washer.**

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