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post #1 of 36 Old 02-23-2014, 05:23 PM Thread Starter
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Zenex Ballast vs "cheap" Ballast

This is my gf's CR-Z, which uses the same size H11 bulb as the Accord. It originally came with halogen low beams, but I wanted to upgrade to an HID kit. I bought a cheap 4300k ebay-type kit for $40.

As you can see, the driver's side is the "cheap" kit.. It looked fluorescent blue/green and the light output onto the road was dismal..worse than the halogen bulb I'd say. It looked like something that belongs on a riced-out Civic.

This light output and color bugged me so much, that I bought the Zenex standard ballasts off eBay for $18/ea, after reading the "a la carte" thread. I installed the Zenex ballast (direct plug and play), while still using the same cheap 4300k bulb that came with the ebay kit. And this (passenger's side) is the outcome. A pure, OEM-like white light! This is exactly what I was originally looking for.

HID's are almost always about the quality of the ballast. The actual bulb does not matter as much. Now, I've never tried DDM or the Morimoto's, which everyone here seems to like, but I am happy with what I have.. Now the question is, how long will it hold up and will there be any issues down the line, but for $18/ea, it can't be beat. Yes, the ballast is bigger is size and heavier in weight, than these new "slim" ballasts, but I actually prefer that. The casing is made of metal and it has good weight to it, and I was still able to stick it to the frame with double-side tape.

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I have Zenex kit too. You are paying more for a quality ballast with a great warranty. The ballast is usually the first thing to go and create issues, not the bulb. My 4300k is pure white though, not blue like the one in the pic.


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i have cheap xenex ballasts from ebay that underpower the bulbs and produce the blue light and cheap xenex ballasts from ebay that are properly powered and produce white light. the problem is finding the cheap but propelry made ballasts.

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i have cheap xenex ballasts from ebay that underpower the bulbs and produce the blue light and cheap xenex ballasts from ebay that are properly powered and produce white light. the problem is finding the cheap but propelry made ballasts.
I think your referring to Xentec, not Zenex, which is some cheap crap. Compare reviews on amazon:





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The CR Z EX headlights come with the HID projectors. I would recommend researching to see if you can swap out the headlights with the EX or if you can preform a retrofit. If you swap HID's into the halogen reflectors you're going to blind everyone at night and still have worse visibility than those with projectors.

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The CR Z EX headlights come with the HID projectors. I would recommend researching to see if you can swap out the headlights with the EX or if you can preform a retrofit. If you swap HID's into the halogen reflectors you're going to blind everyone at night and still have worse visibility than those with projectors.
I've read the debates about putting HIDs into a halogen housing but to my "eye test", those problems dont occur in the CR-Z. The 2013 model at least, comes with halogen projector-style housings, so the HID kit does have a cut-off line, maybe not as good as a true HID projector housing, but it does still have one..

The car is also so small and low to the ground, that the lights don't even come up to the height of an average car.. I've driven separately numerous times and have never noticed any blinding from it and we've never gotten flashed yet while driving it, even with the "cheap" blueish HID kit. We'll see how it goes with the new Zenex ballast and light output.
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I've read the debates about putting HIDs into a halogen housing but to my "eye test", those problems dont occur in the CR-Z. The 2013 model at least, comes with halogen projector-style housings, so the HID kit does have a cut-off line, maybe not as good as a true HID projector housing, but it does still have one..

The car is also so small and low to the ground, that the lights don't even come up to the height of an average car.. I've driven separately numerous times and have never noticed any blinding from it and we've never gotten flashed yet while driving it, even with the "cheap" blueish HID kit. We'll see how it goes with the new Zenex ballast and light output.
probably due to the height of the CRZ, like you mentioned. there IS a cutoff line on the accord's halogen projectors with HID, just not a very defined one. however since the car is much higher thats why its causing the glares everyone is mentioning.
either way the light output will still be not as it could be with a true HID projector

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I think your referring to Xentec, not Zenex, which is some cheap crap. Compare reviews on amazon:

lol youre right. i have both. my mistake on the spelling from earlier. the zenex are good and the xentec suck.

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I can also vouch for Zenex ballasts. Great, quality units. I got Zenex after I was unhappy with 5000k DDM kit. With Zenex, the color temperature is closer to 4600k.

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I can also vouch for Zenex ballasts. Great, quality units. I got Zenex after I was unhappy with 5000k DDM kit. With Zenex, the color temperature is closer to 4600k.
Did you re-use the DDM Bulbs?


I'm getting mixed answers on doing research about whether bulbs or the ballast play the bigger role in terms of hue.
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I have been running Zenex Ballasts with retrofitresourse bulbs for more than 7 months now... 0 issues.

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How is the Zenex firing up in really cold temps? RFS had to redesign the morimoto ballast (now called dsp) due to hid not fire in low temps.
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How is the Zenex firing up in really cold temps? RFS had to redesign the morimoto ballast (now called dsp) due to hid not fire in low temps.
We have has several -0 temps this winter and I never had one issue.

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probably due to the height of the CRZ, like you mentioned. there IS a cutoff line on the accord's halogen projectors with HID, just not a very defined one. however since the car is much higher thats why its causing the glares everyone is mentioning.
either way the light output will still be not as it could be with a true HID projector
There isn't really a cutoff, our halogen projectors are designed to shoot light up, unlike a HID projector which causes a high beam effect. I've experienced it with another Accord although I'm not sure about the CRZ.

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How is the Zenex firing up in really cold temps? RFS had to redesign the morimoto ballast (now called dsp) due to hid not fire in low temps.
Mine fired up in MINUS 21 degree air temperature (not wind chill)

Love the Zenex's especially for $16 each

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