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Hub centric vs. Lug centric wheels

I'm planning on going to 18 inch aftermarket wheels for my 2013 Accord V6, but I'm concerned that aftermarket wheels are usually lug centric as opposed to the stock wheels, which are hub centric.

Will I be looking at vibration problems if I get the aftermarket wheels?


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That's what hub centric rings are for.

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That's what hub centric rings are for.
Will that cure the problem or am I better off buying Honda Rims?

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Will that cure the problem or am I better off buying Honda Rims?
The Honda rims are good cast rims. The 18" and 19" wheels are Enkeis, essentially Enkei Performance grade. That means they are a little heavy though. The 18" wheels are about 26 pounds and the 19" wheels are about 29 pounds. That isn't heavy for cast wheels but it is still heavy. By the time you get a set of tires on you are talking about up to 55 pounds of weight per corner. That's a nasty chunk of unsprung weight.

With properly fitted hubcentric rings and conical lugnuts, you aren't going to have a vibration problem. The hubcentric rings serve the same purpose as the OEM hubcentric fitment, which is to line the wheel up properly on the hub so that when you bolt on the lugnuts, the wheel lugs can properly support the wheel.

Basically all aftermarket wheels will require hubcentric rings and conical lugnuts for fitment. That's because it is rare that a vendor can count on selling enough of a given wheel to justify the cost of hubcentric fitment, and it isn't really necessary. If you are worried about the strength of the lugs, get ARP replacements, but it shouldn't be a problem with these cars.

Just get good strong lightweight wheels in a style you like.

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The Honda rims are good cast rims. The 18" and 19" wheels are Enkeis, essentially Enkei Performance grade. That means they are a little heavy though. The 18" wheels are about 26 pounds and the 19" wheels are about 29 pounds. That isn't heavy for cast wheels but it is still heavy. By the time you get a set of tires on you are talking about up to 55 pounds of weight per corner. That's a nasty chunk of unsprung weight.

With properly fitted hubcentric rings and conical lugnuts, you aren't going to have a vibration problem. The hubcentric rings serve the same purpose as the OEM hubcentric fitment, which is to line the wheel up properly on the hub so that when you bolt on the lugnuts, the wheel lugs can properly support the wheel.

Basically all aftermarket wheels will require hubcentric rings and conical lugnuts for fitment. That's because it is rare that a vendor can count on selling enough of a given wheel to justify the cost of hubcentric fitment, and it isn't really necessary. If you are worried about the strength of the lugs, get ARP replacements, but it shouldn't be a problem with these cars.

Just get good strong lightweight wheels in a style you like.
Good explanation. Much obliged 8thgen

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The Honda rims are good cast rims. The 18" and 19" wheels are Enkeis, essentially Enkei Performance grade. That means they are a little heavy though. The 18" wheels are about 26 pounds and the 19" wheels are about 29 pounds. That isn't heavy for cast wheels but it is still heavy. By the time you get a set of tires on you are talking about up to 55 pounds of weight per corner. That's a nasty chunk of unsprung weight.

With properly fitted hubcentric rings and conical lugnuts, you aren't going to have a vibration problem. The hubcentric rings serve the same purpose as the OEM hubcentric fitment, which is to line the wheel up properly on the hub so that when you bolt on the lugnuts, the wheel lugs can properly support the wheel.

Basically all aftermarket wheels will require hubcentric rings and conical lugnuts for fitment. That's because it is rare that a vendor can count on selling enough of a given wheel to justify the cost of hubcentric fitment, and it isn't really necessary. If you are worried about the strength of the lugs, get ARP replacements, but it shouldn't be a problem with these cars.

Just get good strong lightweight wheels in a style you like.
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You are welcome. There are some folks on here, like Jorge (BPearl2010) who have a lot more knowledge and experience than I on this subject, especially if you are going for radical fitments, so if you have questions or are concerned that a vendor may not be giving you all the facts, don't hesitate to use the search function or put a question out there, somebody on the forum (or on ********) will probably know. By the way, lightweight 18" wheels are a good choice. You will find lots of good options. It gets harder once you get into 19" or 20" (dub) wheels because good lightweight wheels that size tend to get really expensive. For some people that is not a problem of course, but for others, price is part of the consideration.

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