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Red face HOW I CURED MY 2010 ACCORD LXP from using oil

To me it was as unHonda like as can be. at 78000 miles my Accord started using a quart every 1000 miles.
I thought it has to be a plugged egr - pvc - emission tube - torn vacuum line.
Then I read about all these other poor slobs getting their 2.4 Accord motors getting rebuild by Honda that used
a quart every 600 miles. I spoke to the Honda Dealer, a quart every 1000 is not covered by extended warrenty..Plus. They would need the car 3 days to test etc etc.
I am not a quitter. I came to the conclusion after hours online, that the piston rings get cruded up and stop spinning.
since I would use a quart 1000-1200 miles, i figured i have one stuck oil ring. Not to be confused with the compression rings. The bigger oil burners have 2 pistons with stuck oil rings.
How to cure ?
Pathetically Simple and cheap.
I pulled the plugs, put a shot glass of marvel Mystery Oil in each Cly. let sit for 18 hours ( most guys on the web suggest 2-3 days). Then I watched it. the oil didnt seem to move on the stick for 600 miles. I changed the oil, this time
leaving out a pint of oil and putting Marvel in with the Valvoline 100% Synthetic ( always used Mobil One until now ).
I am thrilled to report after 700 miles, the oil is top of the full mark. I keep thinking all these engine rebuilds were needlessly done wihen
it is just a stuck ring or two.

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Well, even Japanese cars can have quirks like this. My Corolla also burns a lot of oil, and no, it's not from the old age. Corollas and Camrys from that time period all had design flaws and their oil rings would get stuck. Might try putting Seafoam in my Corolla then.

And with MM oil, Seafoam and the like, I don't think you should count on them to fix everything. It should just be treated as "This might work" solution, not as a proper fix. It's a bit of hit or miss with these products. They can do great things, but that's no guarantee they will fix anything.

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I just put in a bottle of MMO in my oil today on advice of my mechanic, to help clean up my rings, etc.

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I did the same thing in my son's 99 I4 Camry that was using oil and it has definitely improved oil consumption.
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I did the same thing in my son's 99 I4 Camry that was using oil and it has definitely improved oil consumption.
That's great info! I have a Corolla of the same year which also burns oil. Might be worth a shot then.

Wonder if Seafoam will do the same thing. MMO is actually quite rare in Canada, while Seafoam can be purchased easily at the local Canadian Tires.
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You went old-school! Good for you. Glad it worked. You're lucky you have an I4. That technique does not work as well on a V6, and forget about an H4 or H6. Best of luck.
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You went old-school! Good for you. Glad it worked. You're lucky you have an I4. That technique does not work as well on a V6, and forget about an H4 or H6. Best of luck.
Kerosene trick renewed ! Sometimes the "old school" method solves many problems.
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Same thing can be done using sea foam. The problem is oil gunk clogging the oil return holes behind the oil control rings on the pistons' head. Soaking it with cleaning fluid loosen and clean up that hard oil gunk. Now oil returns back in, no more oil burning. You have to crank the engine with the plugs out to evacuate that fluid before putting everything back together.

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Good to hear. I've got an 08' Chrysler Aspen that's using a quart every 600-800 miles. As usual, Chrysler techs say this is normal. I disagree. I suspect it to be rings as well. Might have to give this a shot.

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I went through this same damned thing with my wife's '01 Toyota Celica when we first started dating- the 1ZZ-FE motors are infamous for having stuck rings.

Removed the plugs, poured in Seafoam, let sit for a full day, cranked everything over with the plugs removed to remove the seafoam, put the plugs back in it, ran it around the block HARD a few times with the old plugs and oil, then gave it an oil change and fresh plugs.

Went from using a quart a week to less than a quart between 3,500 mile oil changes.
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Old skool is Bon Ami... poor it down the throat while engine runs. Takes a whole can. Part of GM tech of the 50s. Ha! 😆 was given that info from an old mechanic back in the 80s. They dont make Bon Ami like they use to, so it probably wont do good for any engine.

If you want fast results MEK will break through build up poor 1/4 cup into each cylinder and wait 4 hrs. Then crank with the plugs out for a wee bit. Reinstall the plugs and your rings shoould be free to spin.
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Good to hear. I've got an 08' Chrysler Aspen that's using a quart every 600-800 miles. As usual, Chrysler techs say this is normal. I disagree. I suspect it to be rings as well. Might have to give this a shot.
The only problem with a V6 or V8 is that the cylinders aren't straight up and down so it's a bit tougher to do the same cylinder soaking. Don't know if your Chrysler has a V engine or not but I figured I'd throw it out there.

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I started using Zmax engine formula on my v6 6 speed cause it would burn a quart of oil every 5000KMS

now the car only burns about 200ml

oil consumption is down by 80% !

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I started using Zmax engine formula on my v6 6 speed cause it would burn a quart of oil every 5000KMS

now the car only burns about 200ml

oil consumption is down by 80% !
Had never heard of zMax so I looked it up. Here's what they say on their web site:

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zMAX does not replace your regular oil, and using zMAX will not overfill your normal oil level because it soaks into metal.
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The only problem with a V6 or V8 is that the cylinders aren't straight up and down so it's a bit tougher to do the same cylinder soaking. Don't know if your Chrysler has a V engine or not but I figured I'd throw it out there.
60° V6 would only require you to jack up to compensate for the 60° angle. Maybe a ramp would do it for you. 90° v6 or v8 gonna be a little more troublesome.

Or overfill the cylinder to compensate for the angle. Not as complete coverage for the entire circumference of the cylinder, as in a straight up and down vertical 4 cylinder, but it will soak MOST of the ring.

Of course the "extreme volume of kerosene (or MMO Mystery Marvel Oil (EDIT: Marvel Mystery Oil)) " would cause you to really make sure you drain the engine oil following this operation.

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