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post #1 of 32 Old 03-29-2009, 08:25 AM Thread Starter
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Question AEM Bypass Valve w/ Injen Intake?

I'm interested in getting the Injen CAI for my Accord, but hydro-locking is a big concern for me. I noticed that the AEM Bypass Valve basically goes right in-between the two tubes of any CAI, it just depends on the size of the Intake's tubes.

My question is, what is the size of the tubing for the Injen CAI, and could I install it on the Injen Intake if it fits?

(The AEM Bypass Valve works on 2.25" 2.5" 2.75" and 3" tubing.)






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u planning to submerge ur car?

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it should be under the lengths you listed, not bigger than 3. it should work. id get a bypass regardless if you go swimming with your car or w.e, no need to risk it

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theres no risk if u dont plan to submerge.
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theres no risk if u dont plan to submerge.
Ok what happens when you are on a highway and you're going 60. The guy in front of you decides he wants to stay at 55 to be safe. Suddenly, a huge puddle from the pervious day's rain appears on your left side. You're stuck. You can't change lanes and you can't slow down. You run right through it, water-locking your engine, blowing your connecting rods, and you're in the shop for a couple weeks and $750+ poorer. Sucks for you because you weren't planning on puddle surfing.

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Ok what happens when you are on a highway and you're going 60. The guy in front of you decides he wants to stay at 55 to be safe. Suddenly, a huge puddle from the pervious day's rain appears on your left side. You're stuck. You can't change lanes and you can't slow down. You run right through it, water-locking your engine, blowing your connecting rods, and you're in the shop for a couple weeks and $750+ poorer. Sucks for you because you weren't planning on puddle surfing.
If the puddle is that big you should be able to see it coming! The filter is pretty well concealed inside the front bumper. Wouldn't it take a pretty deep and long puddle to suck up enough water through the filter at 60mph to actually hydro lock your car?

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If the puddle is that big you should be able to see it coming! The filter is pretty well concealed inside the front bumper. Wouldn't it take a pretty deep and long puddle to suck up enough water through the filter at 60mph to actually hydro lock your car?
You can question sizes of puddles now, but when you're coming at one at 60, you have no idea how the road curves to let you know how deep that puddle is. I'm just saying, one false move and you're toast.

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You can question sizes of puddles now, but when you're coming at one at 60, you have no idea how the road curves to let you know how deep that puddle is. I'm just saying, one false move and you're toast.
I think I'd be more worried about wrecking my car than hydrolocking it if road conditions were that bad... Get what you feel comfortable with.

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I think I'd be more worried about wrecking my car than hydrolocking it if road conditions were that bad... Get what you feel comfortable with.
Exactly why I'm leaning towards the Fujita F5 SRI now instead of the Injen CAI. It's pretty much impossible to hydrolock an SRI.

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I totally respect what ya say'n about making sure your covered with the bypass,but on my intake(AEM CAI) the filter comes down by the foglight & the water level would have to be significant to submerge the filter enough to suck in water.Not to mention that under the bumper is a plastic barrier that helps aswell.Over near me we don't get lake deep puddles,but if where u live gets crazy rain then get it for peace of mind.Just my opinion.Either way good luck with your intake decision & ENJOY!!!
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if ur goin 60 MPH and cant stop for this puddle, and this puddle was deep enough to hydrolock you, hydrolocking would be the least of your problems hitting a puddle that big at 60MPH. in fact, all freeway traffic would slow to avoid a puddle that big. furthermore, major freeways are designed to runoff water. no freeway with average speeds that high is going to have any puddles whatsoever.
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if ur goin 60 MPH and cant stop for this puddle, and this puddle was deep enough to hydrolock you, hydrolocking would be the least of your problems hitting a puddle that big at 60MPH. in fact, all freeway traffic would slow to avoid a puddle that big. furthermore, major freeways are designed to runoff water. no freeway with average speeds that high is going to have any puddles whatsoever.
...Brought to you by The Army Corps of Engineers. J/K. But he is right. Can you imagine a "body of water" that is 8 or 9 inches deep on a highway? There's no way you'd be driving through that 60mph, unless you are in a plastic/metal wood log looking contraption at a water park.

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Bruceleroy has the Injen CAI and he posted this pic in another thread showing how deep the water would have to be to hydrolock the motor. If you hit a "puddle" this deep at 60, your car is going to be toast anyways. I've gone through water that deep but in my truck and slowly.


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The size of a puddle in order to hydrolock a CAI is going to need to be at least 8-9 inches deep like YRM said. SRI's are impossible to hydrolock, but can heatsoak, causing acceleration issues.

CAI's need to be completely submerged in water to suck water into the engine. As long as it isn't submerged the air flowing around it will still take first priority into the engine because air is undoubtedly easier to move than water, due to weight.

In order for you to hydrolock with an SRI, the water would have more damage than a blown engine... you'd be looking at full-on flood to your windshield, and at that point, I'd question if you're still on a road...


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one item i saw that i liked was this filter condom that is hyrdophobic, so it keeps splashes and droplets out. i liked it mostly cuz it will keep larger debris out of the filter making it easier to clean, but it's supposed to be used to help prevent hydrolocking as well.

bu ya, dont worry about locking, save ur money.

u'll notice, the stock intakes design (with it's silencer apparatus) locates itself in roughly the same place as the CAI filter.

worse comes to worst, if u ever do hydrolock, return to stock and play dumb lol!

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