on different forums and in various threads (albeit from a few years or so ago) people were saying that they got aftermarket key fobs/blanks cut at their honda dealership for pretty cheap.
now............ all i get are BS (yet arguably reasonable) responses when i reach out to the local honda dealerships here. what's with this? its like the door to this slowly closed over the past few years for... whatever reason that is beyond the dealership just wanting to chip you out of $115 for an OEM setup. and now i'm beckoned to go to this local locksmith (that i KNOW FOR SURE CAN
duplicate my key) and have him do it for $50................... with no guarantee that it'll work lmao
. i guess its a win-win anyway, because the fobs from ebay are like $10. one blank key fob i bought on eBay a couple days after i got my car actually came with the remote inside of it, and a couple weeks ago i bought another blank key fob (w/o the remote), two flip keys (i stripped the screws on the first one), and two remotes. now i have only one working key (obviously, the OEM key), two CUT keys (OEM and flip key), and three working remotes (the OEM, the one in the flip key, and the one in the blank key). i'll get to clarifying this later.
i had to deal with a lot of prissy men and their petty attitudes the other day when i was calling different dealerships and locksmiths. 98% of the phone calls went like this
"Hi this is so and so from [name of shop] how are you?"
"Good afternoon, I'm doing fine, how are you?"
"Great! How can I help you today?"
"Well, I have a blank Honda key, that I managed to program myself to unlock/lock the doors, with the remote. I just need to get the blade cut."
"Is there a transponder in your key?"
"Yeah, the transponder is soldered onto the circuit board in the remote. I already progra--"
"SIR, is there a transponder in your key?"
"... yes. There is a transponder in my key."
"Then we can't cut it."
"Why not? I'm not asking you to program the key. I just need the BLADE cut. Isn't that what you guys do? CUT the BLADES of KEYS?"
"Yeah, we can't cut it. Because the way the keys work and the transponder and the bacon cheeseburger I had last night messed up the flux capacitor in my bathtubs faucet housing."
"What the f............. alright, thanks." *click*
One conversation went like this, and a woman picked up this phone this time:
"Hi, my name is so and so from [name of shop]. How can I help you?"
"Hi, do you guys do automotive key cutting?"
".. yes, we do."
"Ummmmm, what car do you have?"
She shouts out to someone else in the shop, I guess, as I tell her the year, make, and model of my car. "2009!"
Awkward 15 seconds of silence...
She returns to the phone saying, "Nope, we can't cut it."
"Aww, alright. Thanks."
This is the conversation I had when I called my Honda dealership, and after this conversation, all I kept saying in my head was, "BS, BS, BS." But then I tried to reason with it, because I kinda get why Honda dealerships are reluctant when it comes to cases like this. I'm just glad he wasn't a jerk about it.
*gets redirected to the service department*
"Hi my name is blah blah, how can I help you?"
"Good day, blah blah, how are you?"
"I'm doing great, how are you?"
"Great, great. Uh, quick question. Is it possible for me to come in and have a key cut? I ordered a blank from eBay, with the chip and whatnot inside. I managed to program it to my car, so I can unlock and lock the doors with the buttons, but I just need to get the blade cut."
"Actuallyyyyy, no, they won't cut it. Because of the way aftermarket guys make the keys, they're made of brass or some other non-composite inosilicate, and the machine won't take it."
"Dang. I understand."
"Yeaah, sorry about that, man."
"No problem. Thank you for the information, though!"
"Have a great rest of the day!"
"Thank you, you as well." *click*
I even went to Lowes, to no avail. The guy I dealt with had a snotty attitude too.
My friend was already at Lowes, so he went and asked around and put me on the phone with some dude that works there. This is the conversation:
"Yeah, uh.. your buddy said you want to get a key cut here?"
"Yeah. I have an 09 Honda Accord. I don't need it programmed, I just need the blade cut."
"... what? You need the blade programmed?"
"No. The remote is already programmed. I just need the blade cut."
"There's a transponder in that key though, isn't it?"
"Yes, there is. The transponder isn't IN the key blade itself, its in the plastic portion where the buttons are, soldered onto the circuit board, completely independent of the key blade."
"... huh? So you wanna come get the key cut?"
"Yeah. I just need the key cut."
"Hu--what?" then he hands the phone over to my friend as if he was either fed up or confused with me
So since I had time to burn before work that day, I decided to take a visit down to Lowes, and meet my buddy there, as well as the store associate I spoke with on the phone.
I show him my key and the blank key fob. He's like:
"I can't cut this."
"Why can't you cut this?"
"Because......." he says, as he turns and rotates the key as if he had never seen one before "I don't know... what cartridge to use, and... yeah, I can't cut this."
"Alright, thanks." And I walk out.
Home Depot was no good either. Luckily the guys there weren't jerks.
I understand that the cutting of the newer Honda keys is a pretty complicated process (sic: not that complicated) and does require specialized equipment, but why is it really this much of a hassle? Obviously besides security reasons, because I can prove that I own my car to the nines whenever that becomes necessary. I do know that the older Honda keys were a lot more primitive and simple in design, and could be duplicated with the same machine that duplicates your house keys.
Now, the composition of the metal in the key blade itself plays a big role in whether or not a/the locksmith can/will cut it, and most locksmiths don't understand the deal with the transponder (aka "chip" by the younger guys).
So far, there's literally only one locksmith I know of around here (southern Connecticut) that can cut the newer Honda keys. I took my flip key to him a couple of weeks ago, he cut it, and charged me $25 because it didn't work. But it didn't work – ironically –*because of the transponder. I've read a lot of DIYs, but haven't gotten the courage to do it (long story short, the transponder on the circuit board is placed too far away from the key blade, so the immobilizer in the ignition barrel can't detect it. thus, it needs to be taken off the circuit board, and placed into the slot designated for it inside the flip key.). The car will start, but shuts off after a second and a half. So.. one day I'll get to MacGyver-ing that. But in the meantime, let me go spend $50 on getting my other blank key cut so I can have the satisfaction of having a spare key that works... yay.