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0w20 or 5w20 with rebate?

In my 05 2.4 that recommends 5w20, I want to run Penzoil Platinum 0w20 at the next change so it will flow good in the cold temps coming up this winter. However, right now, I can get a jug of Mobil 1 5w20 for 24.99 with a $12 rebate. I like the 0w20 oil because it's thinner in cold weather and will give a little better gas mileage but it's hard to turn down a jug of synthetic that cost $13 at the end of the day.

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You're kidding right? 5w20 recommended vs 0w20 you want to run becomes a debate/discussion here for $13.00... Amazing. Why not just run what Honda tells you to run?


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Actually, the chart in at the Honda dealer says 0w20 recommended for my car, but 5w20 is okay. My cap says 5w20 but I think Honda changed their recommendation a while back.

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Actually, the chart in at the Honda dealer says 0w20 recommended for my car, but 5w20 is okay. My cap says 5w20 but I think Honda changed their recommendation a while back.
If Honda changed their recommendation then why not follow it. It's amazing to me that there are so many discussions here 'bout saving $5, $10, $15 when we're talking 'bout protecting a $20-$30k car. I just don't understand it.

So are you're saying that you'd prefer to run 0w20, Honda recommends it, and you're hesitant because of saving $13.00? Once again, "You're kidding, right?"
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So are you're saying that you'd prefer to run 0w20, Honda recommends it, and you're hesitant because of saving $13.00? Once again You're kidding, right?
Buy a new Oil Cap...
The chart at my Honda dealer is apparently more recent than that one. It DOES say 0w20 is recommended for the 05 Accord.
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So what's the problem? Please don't tell me it's saving $13.00.

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5W20 will still work (crank) at -13F. 0W20 is good to -22F. Buy the 5W20 and save the buck$.

For what it's worth I changed my 04 2.4l five speed to M1 0W20 at the first oil change. That was 3500 miles. I changed it every 7K-8K after that and it ran flawlessly. It was always on sale (they were promoting it) or I would have used 5W20.

This was in the fierce heat of south TX, no fear of cold temps but super hot all the time.
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The chart at my Honda dealer is apparently more recent than that one. It DOES say 0w20 is recommended for the 05 Accord.
I certainly can't contest what you say you saw at your dealer. But I don't believe for a second that Honda has officially changed their oil recommendation for the 7th gen from 5-20 to 0-20.

If they have, I think that myself and many others would like to confirm that Honda really changed it.

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The reality is that the viscosity AT TEMPERATURE (which is what defines it as a 20wt) is the same regardless of if it is a 5w- or 0w- 20 oil. So this is not something to fret.

A 0w- is tested to not go above a certain max viscosity under a cranking simulator at a very cold temperature, way below 0 degrees.

The benefit is slightly better pumping behaviors and notionally better MPGs at cold startup. Otherwise theyre really interchangeable. Honda has to tow the line for the latest cars because they were MPG-tested with 0w-20 in the crankcase.
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I certainly can't contest what you say you saw at your dealer. But I don't believe for a second that Honda has officially changed their oil recommendation for the 7th gen from 5-20 to 0-20.

If they have, I think that myself and many others would like to confirm that Honda really changed it.
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I certainly can't contest what you say you saw at your dealer. But I don't believe for a second that Honda has officially changed their oil recommendation for the 7th gen from 5-20 to 0-20.

If they have, I think that myself and many others would like to confirm that Honda really changed it.
What they said is that you can use either one, pretty simple. I've already proven the 0W20 so just pick one and drive. It's not brain surgery.
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0w20 recommended for 7th gen

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I agree with those who say to spend the $13 and get the oil that both you and Honda prefer.

But,

Saving $13 on oil that still meets the specs for your car is a much better reason than those who go out-of-spec to 5w30 because grampa told them that thicker is better.

And since you're that guy who likes to change fluids 10 times more frequently than required, the $13-per-change savings could add up to some serious dough!

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I agree with those who say to spend the $13 and get the oil that both you and Honda prefer.
Unless I'm reading the chart wrong Honda doesn't prefer 0W-20. It lists both 5W-20 and 0W-20 as recommended.

But the distinction the new chart makes changing 0W-20 from acceptable to recommended is worth knowing about at least to me. I'm presuming the chart is legitimately from Honda and not the dealer. It certainly looks like the real thing and I see no reason to question it. Thanks for the valuable information chris918!
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Unless I'm reading the chart wrong Honda doesn't prefer 0W-20. It lists both 5W-20 and 0W-20 as recommended.
Nice point. (Edit: Actually, for the 7th gen, I read it as 0w20 is "recommended", and 5w20 is listed without comment.)

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I'm presuming the chart is legitimately from Honda and not the dealer.
I think about that, too. You can find this chart, and older versions of it, on many dealer web sites. But I've never found it on honda.com.


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