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post #1 of 28 Old 03-20-2014, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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Filter Media tears in Purolator filters

Like the title says, there has been a rash of Purolator oil filters turning up with tears in the filter media. There have been several instances reported at BITOG (Bob is the Oil Guy), as well as at other automotive forums. Here are a couple to get you started:











I personally use Purolator filters, and presently have on on the wife's 2013 Accord, but until they tighten up quality control I'll be using filters from other manufacturers.

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I'll keep using them. i use the pure one on my 7th gen

"Purolator filters are warranted to be free from manufacturer's defects in material, workmanship or design in accordance with the terms and conditions described below.
Purolator filters meet or exceed OEM (original equipment manufacturers) requirements and are tested in accordance with the Society of Automotive Engineers' test procedures. -

New car warranties remain in effect when Purolator filters are used in accordance to the engine manufacturer's change intervals.

In the event of an engine failure directly caused by a defective Purolator filter, which was properly installed and changed following the engine manufacturer's recommended service intervals and was in accord with current Purolator catalog recommendations, Purolator warrants that it will pay for the repair or, if necessary, replacement of an engine or other parts damaged as a result of any defect in any of our filters."


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I'll keep using them. i use the pure one on my 7th gen

"Purolator filters are warranted to be free from manufacturer's defects in material, workmanship or design in accordance with the terms and conditions described below.
Purolator filters meet or exceed OEM (original equipment manufacturers) requirements and are tested in accordance with the Society of Automotive Engineers' test procedures. -

New car warranties remain in effect when Purolator filters are used in accordance to the engine manufacturer's change intervals.

In the event of an engine failure directly caused by a defective Purolator filter, which was properly installed and changed following the engine manufacturer's recommended service intervals and was in accord with current Purolator catalog recommendations, Purolator warrants that it will pay for the repair or, if necessary, replacement of an engine or other parts damaged as a result of any defect in any of our filters."
The issue is that a number of Purolator filters were not free of defects in materials, workmanship and design. Tears in the filter media allow the passage of unfiltered oil along with contaminates, which is contrary to the purpose of a filter.

Will this destroy your motor and will Purolator be taken to task on a warranty claim; highly unlikely. Will a defective filter increase the rate of wear on your motor; quite possibly. The fact is Purolator could sell empty shells without any media at all and would still never pay out on a warranty claim. Given this do you still believe their warranty provides you with any meaningful protection?

When I purchase a filter I'm looking to protect and preserve my motor. Though a long term Purolator user I find they are no longer sufficiently reliable to meet my requirements; I prefer filters that prevent the passage of contaminants. If you're still satisfied Purolator will be happy to take your money. You'll be in good company as the vast majority of Purolator users are clueless about their filters quality control issues and will never question whether or not their filters are effective or not. The difference between them and you is that for them ignorance is bliss; you on the other hand will wonder if the filter you're running is torn.
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Well it sucks because my only other option is Fram, and everyone hates on Fram filters too….

So what other option is there really…OEM? Dunno about that. I thought Fram made OEM

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Fram, previously nicknamed, The Orange Can of Death, apparently makes a great filter in their Tough Guard and Ultra Guard lines. Like you I'm a bit leery about Fram oil filters but word is these are excellent filters.

Another alternative is the Napa Silver or Napa Gold filters, both reportedly made by Wix. There's got to be a Napa store somewhere near you and they're reasonably priced, especially when on sale.

Of course there's always Wix, which has always and still does have an excellent reputation. I'll probably put a Wix in my wife's ninth generation accord and if you're willing to buy six or so at a time they're pretty cheap at a number of discount online filter stores like Filterbarn.com, Fleetfilter.com, and Discountfleetsupply.com.

Another great filter is the Mobil1 filters, though I think they're considerably more expensive than the others I've mentioned.

So there are plenty of alternatives, though I think we'll probably spend a bit more then we had for the Purolators for some extra peace of mind.
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OP do you have a link to the Purolator PureOne model of oil filter that has this problem. It seems like all the links are talking about the Purolator classic (low end/cheapest filter.. like fram basic orange) they make.
The only Fram model that people do not like is their basic orange can... People like the TG and rave about the Ultra. Perhaps Purolator should be label the same. Avoid the Classic model.
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OP do you have a link to the Purolator PureOne model of oil filter that has this problem. It seems like all the links are talking about the Purolator classic (low end/cheapest filter.. like fram basic orange) they make.
The only model of product from FRAM that people do not like is their basic orange can... People like the TG and rave about the Ultra. Perhaps Purolator should be label the same. Avoid the Classic model.
There have been several filters, both PureOne and Classic that have turned up with defective filter media, and at least one of the Classics with torn media was a filter commonly used on Hondas (L14610). The problem may be the way the ends of the media are joined together with a metal clip, which is the method used in both Classic and PureOne filters. It would be great if we could simply avoid one or the other, but so far it appears the problem is common to both grades of filter.
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Just so hard to switch from purolator...

Been using them for 10 years with no issues.

Also I have used Fram with no issues either.

I never had an engine failure due to the oil filter. I think that is pretty rare.

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Of course there's always Wix, which has always and still does have an excellent reputation. I'll probably put a Wix in my wife's ninth generation accord and if you're willing to buy six or so at a time they're pretty cheap at a number of discount online filter stores like Filterbarn.com, Fleetfilter.com, and Discountfleetsupply.com.
I read good things about Wix a while back, so that's what I've used for years, on both Accords. It's usually ~$6 at O'Reilly. Not bad.

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I never had an engine failure due to the oil filter. I think that is pretty rare.
Engine failure from unfiltered oil would be just about non-existent in the short run. Increased engine wear and reduced engine life are much more likely outcomes, but even then most folks would never know the difference. I doubt you continuing to use Purolator filters will cause you any harm, other than the occasional restless night.

Here are a few more failures, cause I know Dan is curious about them:









BTW, I believe all of these threads I've posted have popped up within the past few weeks. Reports are torn media has been showing up since 2010.
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Here are a few more failures, cause I know Dan is curious about them:









BTW, I believe all of these threads I've posted have popped up within the past few weeks. Reports are torn media has been showing up since 2010.
Thanks for the links. It's good information to know. I will look into the Fram tough filters!

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Thanks for the links. It's good information to know. I will look into the Fram tough filters!
My pleasure Dan. I hope you find a suitable replacement without too much trouble.
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Oh joy there goes $20 worth of P1's I have in stock. Guess it's on to Fram Ultra.

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If you can't turn them in or exchange them I'd probably use them so long as your oil change interval isn't too long. I'm thinking 5000 miles or so. But there is a risk.
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If you can't turn them in or exchange them I'd probably use them so long as your oil change interval isn't too long. I'm thinking 5000 miles or so. But there is a risk.
For lack of time to go through all the BITOG threads, is the thought that this problem only happens with extended OCI's?


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