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New 12 volt battery for my three year old Accord Hybrid?

On New Years Eve my Accord didn't "start". I think it started for a moment then had all kinds of errors about various systems not working. I came back later and it started, but with all the errors. I was able to drive it and once it got up to speed they all reset to normal.

Went to Auto Zone and was going to get a new battery, but the guy testing said the battery was still good but was at 73% charge. I figured out I had left my lights on (they're normally set to Auto).

Today I had the same issue and was able to jump start it. Hopefully when I leave here it will be OK.

Since the car is now three years old I figure I should probably go ahead and replace the battery. Looking for recommendations.

Auto Zone has a battery for $120 or $140. Is that a good choice or do you guys have a favorite?


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On New Years Eve my Accord didn't "start". I think it started for a moment then had all kinds of errors about various systems not working. I came back later and it started, but with all the errors. I was able to drive it and once it got up to speed they all reset to normal.

Went to Auto Zone and was going to get a new battery, but the guy testing said the battery was still good but was at 73% charge. I figured out I had left my lights on (they're normally set to Auto).

Today I had the same issue and was able to jump start it. Hopefully when I leave here it will be OK.

Since the car is now three years old I figure I should probably go ahead and replace the battery. Looking for recommendations.

Auto Zone has a battery for $120 or $140. Is that a good choice or do you guys have a favorite?
Do make sure it's the battery and not something else like the alternator, bad contacts, pealed or poor condition of the cable.
Did you buy that battery brand new? If so it might still be under warranty.
If you didn't buy it new, you can have it recharge for free at some stores. Also you can buy a cheap champion battery charger for $20 and re-charge the battery.

When all else has failed, then by all means do buy a new battery and hang on to the receipt should you need to claim the warranty on it or replace it.

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Many people get the Advance Auto Gold battery, buy online with a code for pick up in store. If you go to Bobistheoilguy & look under the sale / rebate tab they offen list current Advance Auto codes or other batteries that are on sale. Bosch from Pep Boys scored #1 a few yrs. ago in Consumer R. magazine. NAPA (Deka) batteries are $20 off this month, they are made in PA., USA if you want to support American jobs. Look the mfg. date code, get freshest one they have. Remember: even though the battery says "maintenance free" you may still need to add water (distilled).

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Do make sure it's the battery and not something else like the alternator, bad contacts, pealed or poor condition of the cable.
Did you buy that battery brand new? If so it might still be under warranty.
If you didn't buy it new, you can have it recharge for free at some stores. Also you can buy a cheap champion battery charger for $20 and re-charge the battery.

When all else has failed, then by all means do buy a new battery and hang on to the receipt should you need to claim the warranty on it or replace it.

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The Accord Hybrid doesn't have an alternator, just a DC/DC converter for the high voltage battery to the low voltage battery. The cables could be an issue, and looking into them is a good idea. I don't know if it matters to you, but I believe XS Power offers a properly sized replacement, but at a premium since it's a "car audio style of battery".


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The Accord Hybrid doesn't have an alternator, just a DC/DC converter for the high voltage battery to the low voltage battery. The cables could be an issue, and looking into them is a good idea. I don't know if it matters to you, but I believe XS Power offers a properly sized replacement, but at a premium since it's a "car audio style of battery".
Ah-ha in that case it might be that there's something going on with the generators/ electric motors that need to be checked out as well. Thanks for the tip.

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Did you buy that battery brand new? If so it might still be under warranty.
Yes I did, three years and 2 days ago to be exact. It came with my new Accord Hybrid.

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The Accord Hybrid doesn't have an alternator, just a DC/DC converter for the high voltage battery to the low voltage battery. The cables could be an issue, and looking into them is a good idea. I don't know if it matters to you, but I believe XS Power offers a properly sized replacement, but at a premium since it's a "car audio style of battery".
I know you're one of the early Hybrid owners like myself. Are you still on the factory battery?

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On New Years Eve my Accord didn't "start". I think it started for a moment then had all kinds of errors about various systems not working. I came back later and it started, but with all the errors. I was able to drive it and once it got up to speed they all reset to normal.

Went to Auto Zone and was going to get a new battery, but the guy testing said the battery was still good but was at 73% charge. I figured out I had left my lights on (they're normally set to Auto).

Today I had the same issue and was able to jump start it. Hopefully when I leave here it will be OK.

Since the car is now three years old I figure I should probably go ahead and replace the battery. Looking for recommendations.

Auto Zone has a battery for $120 or $140. Is that a good choice or do you guys have a favorite?
Walmart for batteries. They have the best prices and they're the only place with a 5 year warranty. Everyone else stopped doing such warranties.

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Yes I did, three years and 2 days ago to be exact. It came with my new Accord Hybrid.


If I had been at 3 years and 2 days I would've tried Honda on for a replacement, they're full replacement within 3 yrs, 36,000 miles.
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Walmart for batteries. They have the best prices and they're the only place with a 5 year warranty. Everyone else stopped doing such warranties.
I have a 5-year warranty that's not from Walmart. It's from a business called Canadian Energy. Pretty good customer service and the battery isn't too bad. It's rated to have 700 CCA and has about 640 when it was tested by Kal Tires when I got new tires. Says on the sticker they have a 60-month warranty for personal use.

Of course, it's a Canadian business(duh), so this info is only gonna benefit anyone living in the Great White North...

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I know you're one of the early Hybrid owners like myself. Are you still on the factory battery?
Yep! Even with approximately 2200 watts of aftermarket stereo amplifier I'm still rocking the OEM battery. I've looked for replacement options only because I was bored! It's supposed to get down to 11 degrees F tonight here so I'll see how it goes in the morning when I leave work.


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If I had been at 3 years and 2 days I would've tried Honda on for a replacement, they're full replacement within 3 yrs, 36,000 miles.
I hit 36,0000 miles in September

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I hit 30k miles in 360 days!! I'll hit 80k in probably two weeks, three tops! This morning's start went without any issue, boy was it cold!


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Did you know that Auto Zone's battery testers have warnings printed on them not to use on hybrids 12 volt batteries?

I didn't. Neither did the guy who tested my battery on New Years Eve. The car failed to start once the following week and I was able to jump it. I went back last Saturday night (Jan 7, one week later) to have them test again. The guy there that time said he couldn't test a hybrid battery and showed me the warning printed clearly on the tester. So I left. It needed a jump again after sitting all day Sunday.

I went in to buy a new battery. They tested my old one by disconnecting it and it failed the tester. They installed the new battery and it all seems fine so far.

I wonder what kind of risks there are with their tester?

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Did you know that Auto Zone's battery testers have warnings printed on them not to use on hybrids 12 volt batteries?

I didn't. Neither did the guy who tested my battery on New Years Eve. The car failed to start once the following week and I was able to jump it. I went back last Saturday night (Jan 7, one week later) to have them test again. The guy there that time said he couldn't test a hybrid battery and showed me the warning printed clearly on the tester. So I left. It needed a jump again after sitting all day Sunday.

I went in to buy a new battery. They tested my old one by disconnecting it and it failed the tester. They installed the new battery and it all seems fine so far.

I wonder what kind of risks there are with their tester?
It is a shame Honda will not release technical information on our cars anymore (Helm Service Manuals); makes life very difficult, and in the case of Hybrids, could be dangerous. I would guess the issue with the tester has to do with the use of a DC to DC converter to transfer some of the high voltage battery energy to maintain (charge) the 12v system. A battery "tester" is nothing but a load amperage measurement, and it may be that the DC to DC converter arrangement in our cars would try to compensate for the current drain of the tester and may either damage the converter or somehow impact the high voltage battery. With Honda "secrets" on technology, we can only guess.


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