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window tint warning: defrost glare - refraction distortion

Before I installed window tint, I posted a thread "should I get window tint". However, no one has warned me of the side effect of window tint: defrost glare or refraction distortion. I now have this glare issue, and did some research. some say they don't have this issue while others experience this issue. Some claim that it would go away after the film is cured or dry. some blame on poor install job.

In fact, this glare issue is very common. what causes it depends on how thick the film and defrost line are. also how tilted the rear window is (fastback like 10th gen accord or hatchback). Ceramic film is thicker than dyed film, such as 3M Color Stable film. Both 3M Crystalline and Llumar CTX are ceramic and thick. mine is Llumar CTX 40%.

if you are going reply to this thread with "I don't have this issue", please include the brand, type, and percentage of tint you have, for example Llumar CTX 40%.

Here are a few threads about this issue in 9th gen accord forum:

Llumar CTX window tint glare
40% 3M Crystalline window tint glare

hope this will help others who wonder why their rear windows have glare/refraction while others don't.

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Bummer for you. Never had that issue with the dozen or so cars I've had tinted.

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Nope...no amount of coolness factor from tints would ever make me put up with that crap...I'd be back at the shop having them take that crap off my windows immediately

I absolutely could not deal with that on a day to day basis

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did you guys read my post and other threads that I linked? it depends on type of film you have.

what brand and type of tint film do you have on your car?

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Obviously, I have and had the kind of film, defrost lines, and rear window angles that does NOT do that.

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Obviously, I have and had the kind of film, defrost lines, and rear window angles that does NOT do that.
what film? and tint percentage?

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Iíve got 20% 3M tint on mine and see that refraction. The first time I drove at night, it freaked me out a bit. But then I realized that when Iím driving at night, the only information I get from my rear mirror is whether thereís someone behind me and roughly how far back they are. This refraction doesnít keep me from doing that so itís no big deal. And I like not having to flip my mirror to dim it at night (I miss the auto dimming mirror on my last few cars).


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what film? and tint percentage?
I hope it is just a matter of the film needing to be cured.

I've not encountered the issues that you've faced. My film and % are listed in my signature.

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When I had my ‘13 Coupe tinted, the installer told me the glare or Jacob's ladder effect, would be more noticeable because Hondas typically have thicker defrost traces than other manufacturers, and being a Coupe with a more raked window would further accentuate the lines.. Indeed it was noticeable and similar to OP's pic, but I eventually got used to it.

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I have 3M 20/35. No problems here. I'm thankful for the back up camera at night though.

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I hope it is just a matter of the film needing to be cured.

I've not encountered the issues that you've faced. My film and % are listed in my signature.
your film is ATR which is metallic. mine is CTX which is ceramic. ceramic is known to have this glare, such as ceramic 3M Crystalline.

I wonder if there are anyone with Llumar CTX film and not seeing this glare.

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When I had my ‘13 Coupe tinted, the installer told me the glare or Jacob's ladder effect, would be more noticeable because Hondas typically have thicker defrost traces than other manufacturers, and being a Coupe with a more raked window would further accentuate the lines.. Indeed it was noticeable and similar to OP's pic, but I eventually got used to it.
what brand and type of tint film do you have? I trying to gather some statistics.

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I’ve got 20% 3M tint on mine and see that refraction. The first time I drove at night, it freaked me out a bit. But then I realized that when I’m driving at night, the only information I get from my rear mirror is whether there’s someone behind me and roughly how far back they are. This refraction doesn’t keep me from doing that so it’s no big deal. And I like not having to flip my mirror to dim it at night (I miss the auto dimming mirror on my last few cars).


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what type of 3M tint film do you have? 3M Color Stable film or 3M Crystalline.

if you are not sure of film type, how much did you pay? so that I can make a guess of film type.

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I have 3M 20/35. No problems here. I'm thankful for the back up camera at night though.
what type of 3M tint film do you have? 3M Color Stable film or 3M Crystalline.

if you are not sure, how much did you pay?

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Have the CTX 30% and have the same thing. It has gotten better over the past couple days, but I am not expecting it to get perfect. There are air gaps around the defrost lines that are causing the reflection.
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Mine is the 3M color stable. I donít live in the desert so the extra cost of the Crystalline didnít make sense.


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Yes! I had this problem on a 3 Series (e90) BMW. It was ceramic huper optik tint, at 35% - I believe. It was several cars ago. The glare never went away nor did it get better. Nice car, expensive tint, and I couldn't see clearly out of the back windows at night - it bugged me.

But since I lived in Texas I reminded myself how much cooler the car was in the summer thanks to the high infrared light rejection (IRR). You just can't get high IRR with dyed tint. As far as metallic tint goes, at the time I read reviews saying it could mess with my cell-phone service.
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The more expensive tint films like 3M Crystalline and Prestige Photosync are not only worth it for better heat rejection, but clarity as well. Photosync in particular does very well in clarity.


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