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post #1 of 40 Old 04-01-2006, 11:12 AM Thread Starter
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Question Oil Drain Valve Opinions

From a V6 Oil Change Post:

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You could also use the Fumoto drain valve.

I put one on our Odyssey this weekend and now I can change the oil the next time around without having to jack up the vehicle. I can just reach underneath and open the valve.

You can find the valve here:

Has anyone put one of these on their V6 Accord? I'm fairly interested it in doing it based on what I hear from others, and also if they needed the adapter as well (site just states for the 6th gen 99 Accord it is needed). I'm still thinking of switching to mobil1 synthetic once my car hits 15,000-20,000km (currently I plan on having the dealership do atleast the first oil change), and this looks like it would make life a lot easier for me to do it on my own once I switch from dino to synth...

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I have one installed on our '03 Corolla and love it since I change my own oil.

I chose the Fram Sure Drain for the Accord (4 cyl.) because the other required the extension. The Fumoto may have been just fine but I was not crazy about it being so close to the ground.

From the Fumoto application chart:

Honda All models up to 1983 F-105
'98 & on, Accord(4cyl.), Prelude, S2000 require adapter ADP-106) F-106
'96 & on V6 engines require adapter ADL-106 F-106
All other models from '84 & on F-106

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hmm...I've looked up the Fram one and although I do like the mechanical nature of the Fumoto, the Fram does include a hose which would make changing the oil on the V6 that much easier (considering how many ppl on this forum and others mention about the difference between where the oil drains from the car and where it actually ends up after it arcs).

It will be a while before I need to change my oil but one of these two do seem to be a good idea...if anyone else has other suggestions (something other than these two) or a warning about using these please post.

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If you are worried about where the oil will drain, simply get the Fumoto with the nipple extension on it.

Then you can attach a hose to it and direct the oil flow where you please.

I am still very happy with mine. I have heard some complaints about the Suredrain being slow to drain, but I have not used one personally, so who knows.

The way the drain valve is mounted on ours, there isnow way debris could make it open without utterly destroying the whole oil pan and bottom of the vehicle.

I feel very comfortable with the design and placement.

On the V6, you will need the extension, but it was no problem to mount it.

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I have heard some complaints about the Suredrain being slow to drain, but I have not used one personally, so who knows.

You & me both! I installed it at the last oil change but haven't actually used it yet.

I prefer the Fumoto but the Accord is quite a bit lower than the Corolla so I chickened out. Also you need to keep track of the 2nd part of the Sure Drain whereas the Fumoto is a single piece.
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Quote:
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I prefer the Fumoto but the Accord is quite a bit lower than the Corolla so I chickened out.
You and me both...I have the HFP suspension as well which has settled at around a 1 inch drop maybe a bit lower, so it puts it even more in question if the Fumoto would cause clearance issues (plus on the V6 I would need the extension as well, which from the pic posted above looks fairly long...)

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The way the drain valve is mounted on ours, there isnow way debris could make it open without utterly destroying the whole oil pan and bottom of the vehicle.
nclek, is that your V6 Accord of one of the other cars??? Because if thats the V6, then it would be the same way on mine (shouldn't have been any changes from 2004 to 2006)

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That photo is from our Odyssey.

I will say for those of you that are concerned about the low ground clearance, the valve does not hang any lower than the bottom of the oil pain.

In fact, the release lever is WAY up out of the way. In order to damage the drain valve, you are going to have fairly significant damage to the oil pain itself, as well as the other lower suspension components on the lower part of the car.

Having done this on the van, I would have put it on our Accord with no concerns.

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Digging a thread from the grave here, but I just installed my Fumoto valve and DID NOT use the adapter. Our oil pans are plenty flat to accept just the valve alone. You can't go wrong with this mod. The lever to release it (on mine least) is pointing towards the sky so there's hardly any chance of a rock or object turning it. The spring is pretty tight to actually release the lever to drain the oil.

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i've heard about these oil quick drain things, for some reason i dont trust them. you're going to have to jack the car up to change the oil filter anyways. whats the big deal with these?

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I ended up buying a Fumoto with adapter and nozzle (still waiting for it to get here though). A guy at work bought one for his Subie, and in playing with the valve, there is no way it could accidentally flip to open (you'd lose your oilpan first).

As for why, in my case I had 2 reasons: 1. I don't have to keep pulling the drain plug, as I know someone who ruined the threads on their oilpan easily, and 2. I can connect a hose, put it in the drainpan, then open the value, and not worry about any mess or spillage. Because of how the oil filter is mounted on the V6 as well, I should be able to keep any spillage to an absolute minimum, which was worth it, at least to me.

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I have it on all 3 of my cars, and think it is one of the best things that I have ever done, as far as making maintanance easier. I can even change the oil in the Miata without jacking it up.

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anyone have a website for these? All this talk has made me want one.
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Here's your part # too: F-106 (valve) and ADP-106 (adapter)
Or, F-106N which the N is for the nipple on the valve.

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I agree that the Fumoto valve is worth it. I have three other vehicles with the Fram Suredrain valve and they do drain very slowly. I love using these drain valves on my vehicles to reduce chances of stripping out threads and to reduce tools needed to change the oil.

Several months back my dad stripped out his threads on his Civic and we had to replace his oil pan. I didn't know about the Fumoto at the time and I sept several hours on the internet before I finally found a Suredrain on EBay for his car. The local stores no longer sell the Suredrain for some reason. A couple of weeks ago, my wife ran over something in the road and it punched a small hole in her pan on her Corolla just above the oil plug. Don't ask, I can't figure it out either. It also scuffed the heck out of the cap of her Suredrain but the valve itself was still in tact. We had to replace her oil pan but was able to reuse the drain valve.

I recently put the Fumoto valve on my V6 Accord and I am very happy with it. Although it does stick out quite a bit due to the adaptor and I also got the valve with the nipple, I am confident that it will not get hit by anything before the oil pan itself is hit. It sits straight back from the oil pan and does not sit any lower than the pan. By adding a hose to the nipple, I can direct the oil directly downward to prevent it from getting all over the undercarrage. I am now thinking about finding out which one of these would fit the transmission plug as well so I can make it easier for drain and fill on it also.


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