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post #1 of 24 Old 08-29-2013, 10:21 AM Thread Starter
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OEM vs Aftermarket brakes and rotors

The mechanic I go to said I should get new rotors and brakes because my rotors are warped again just a couple months after they were cut. So, he recommended I buy aftermarket because I generally get better quality that way, and save some money. So my question is what do members buy, and do you agree? Also, where to buy them from? I checked out Tire Rack, but they didn't seem to have too many options, so I looked at CarID, and there's a bunch of different options there.

So I saw a kit on there from PowerStop, but I'm not sure if they're a good brand. I read about Hawk making good products, so I probably would buy the rotors and brakes separately. What are your opinions on the following:

PowerStop kit:

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All the options I have for my model:

Opinions on brands, which would be the best route to go, etc is appreciated. Thanks


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I bought Hawk HPS pads and centro rotors. The pads performed well, but left deposits on the rotors and caused them to pulse. They also dusted an unbelievable amount.

I highly recommend Autozone's Duralast Gold Cmax pads and rotors. The pads hardly dust, have plenty of stopping power for street driving, and come with a lifetime warranty - so your next set is free. I've been running these for a while with no pulsing.

In general, I think resurfacing rotors is worthless. New ones just aren't that expensive, and it's the same amount of work to get them off and back on. The thinner rotors tend to warp faster.


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I just checked out those rotors and pads, and they aren't too expensive, but I wonder how long they last. These rotors being $30 compared to others which $100 each, I wonder what the difference is. These do look a bit thinner than the more expensive ones do too. How long have you had yours for?

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I just checked out those rotors and pads, and they aren't too expensive, but I wonder how long they last. These rotors being $30 compared to others which $100 each, I wonder what the difference is. These do look a bit thinner than the more expensive ones do too. How long have you had yours for?
front duralasts only have about 15,000 on them so far . . . rears have about 60,000. My brakes are smooth as glass.

My expensive Centros lasted about 45,000 before I threw them in the trash. Maybe 10,000 before I started noticing the pulsing, but like I said, i blame those Hawk HPS pads for leaving deposits. I have an exit ramp that I stop at every day on my way home from work that has a stop light on the end of it. Perfect condition for forming deposits. The Cmax pads can handle more heat, so the issue hasn't repeated itself.

All of the rotors should be built to OEM specifications, so thickness and diameter should be the same for any brand.

I guess I had reached the conclusion that spending 3x as much money won't make them last 3x as long, and I can change the rotors on the front axle in less than an hour, so I just bought less expensive ones with a warranty. I drive 35,000 miles a year, so the 2 year warranty will get me 70,000 miles, which I would be happy with.

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This definitely helps me with my decision. I ended up calling my stealership just to see what they would charge to do it all, and they said about $1000 to do the rotors and a couple hundred more for brakes for the entire car. I wasn't going to use them in the first place, but I wanted to see what i'm saving by not going to them. I can't believe people actually pay them to do it.

But thanks for your help, I think I know where i'm going to get mine from

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I wouldn't turn rotors. I paid about $50 for some painted hat and vane rear rotors at NAPA. The front rotors are still the original, and haven't been machined. The tiny pads and unvented rotors on the rear seem to get a lot of work, for their size. I'm on the third set of pads on the rear, and the second set of pads are still going on the front. I keep using OEM pads because they seem to stop the car well enough, and don't make noise. Changing the rear rotors got rid of the high speed pulsing I would sometimes get.

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This definitely helps me with my decision. I ended up calling my stealership just to see what they would charge to do it all, and they said about $1000 to do the rotors and a couple hundred more for brakes for the entire car. I wasn't going to use them in the first place, but I wanted to see what i'm saving by not going to them. I can't believe people actually pay them to do it.

But thanks for your help, I think I know where i'm going to get mine from
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The stealership charges a lot. Not sure how they get away with it either - al lot of people who don't understand the car freak out when they're falsely told their brakes may stop working suddenly and completely, and fork over the money. I've seen them attempt that tactic.

You can get good quality parts for this car (pads and rotors for all 4 wheels) for about $300. If all goes well, and you have some basic tools, the job takes around 2-3 hours to DIY, again on all 4. A single Axle is more like 1-1/2. Or bring it to a trusted mechanic and pay him a couple hundred dollars.

If all does not go well, and your car is really rusted out from salt in Syracuse, NY, it can take 8, like my sister's Pilot. What a nightmare. I still saved her a lot of money, though.

Beware of the screws that hold the rotor to the hub. They always need an impact screwdriver, and frequently need to be drilled to get them off. If you're not familiar with the issue, do some searching.

FYI, changing just rotors takes literally the same exact amount of work as changing pads and rotors. You have to fully remove and re-install the pads to get to rotors. Throwing a new part in there vs re-installing the old part takes you the amount of time it takes to open a box. So if someone charges you more labor, call BS on them.

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I honestly feel more comfortable having someone do it for me. I'm trying to build up a reputation with my local mechanic, so every job helps. Plus, I don't have the tools and know-how to do it myself, so I think it would be best to have someone who knows how to doing it. But he lets me watch every time, so every little bit counts.

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I honestly feel more comfortable having someone do it for me. I'm trying to build up a reputation with my local mechanic, so every job helps. Plus, I don't have the tools and know-how to do it myself, so I think it would be best to have someone who knows how to doing it. But he lets me watch every time, so every little bit counts.
Perfectly respectable. And you'll definitely pay less than at Honda.

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You should never cut rotors. I've learned this from years of being a newbie. Cutting rotors reduce the amount of metal for heat dissipation. And if rotors are cut off the car as oppose to being while while they are mounted on the hub, then they are not true to the hub and it will warp soon again.

I have centric rotors and they work just fine.

I'll have to say that I have the same experience with Hawk HPS pads, unfortunately that's just what I bought last time and I don't want to waste the money away. I have pad deposits on my rear rotors which is causing some slight pulsing. Ceramic pads is fine, with slightly reduced stopping power but it is ok for street. The Hawk pads have good bite even after many high speed stops. That's the give and take you need to take note of. I personally don't care whether I have brake dust or not. Pad deposits can be taken care of by doing some hard stops from time to time.
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You should never cut rotors. I've learned this from years of being a newbie. Cutting rotors reduce the amount of metal for heat dissipation. .
Correct... and the quickest way to warp rotors is by driving through standing water with hot brakes. Best rotors are the ones made of cast iron.

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Your rotors are warped because of the hawk pads. Any high performance brake pads brakes well because they eat the rotors. Use Akebono proact or Cmax will extender your rotor's life. It's a compromise.
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I thought about ordering rotors online, but I'm glad I didn't. One of the rotors from NAPA had a small chip in the braking surface. It probably wouldn't have had any adverse effects, but when you buy something, you don't want defects. I returned the rotor, and had a replacement the next day. If I had ordered the rotors online, I would have waited a lot longer for the replacement. Just something to consider.

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Your rotors are warped because of the hawk pads. Any high performance brake pads brakes well because they eat the rotors. Use Akebono proact or Cmax will extender your rotor's life. It's a compromise.
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