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My stud woes continue. Can anyone relate?
This is going to be a long winded post, but to appreciate the headache of such a simple matter it may be worth the read.
I purchased winter wheels and tires 2 years ago. Along with swapping those on and off as well as tire rotations, my studs have seen a good amount of use. I've always used a torque wrench set to 90 ft lbs. At around ~80,000 miles this spring I took my winter tires off. Putting the winter tires on a few months prior actually had a lot of squeaking taking the lug nuts off. Then came the spring and taking the lug nuts off led to a few of them shearing off on the rear of the car. I said to myself "okay this isn't totally unexpected given the previous time giving off so much squeaking." I wasn't exactly prepared for this to happen and was left fighting with those stupid phillips head screws in the rotors forever and broke 1 impact wrench in the process. Not the worst day but set me back a few hours on a simple 20 minute job of changing tires.
Now, come this winter I THOUGHT I was prepared for another headache. I actually ordered a new set of lug nuts and 20 brand new studs to replace everything and start fresh. As predicted I snapped two studs, 1 front and 1 rear (if anyone is wondering the threads appear perfectly fine, but some rusting under the lug nuts). No big deal, take off the rear rotors easily since I trashed those stupid retainer phillips head screws in the spring, bang out the rear studs and replace them. Get to the front of the car and the stress comes crashing back. The phillips head screws in the front rotors of course will not come out no matter the method, ended up taking a drill to them (wish I would have though of this a hell of a lot earlier). The axle nut ends up being a completely different nightmare. I knock out the retaining tab on the nut and my 450 ft lb air impact doesn't budge it. Jumping on a 3/4" breaker bar doesn't work, and finally my buddies 1300 ft lb electric impact doesn't work all while heating it lightly with a torch (didn't want to cook the bearing grease). Thought I was stuck pulling the spindle and axle and taking it to a shop. FINALLY resorted to a 6' length on 1" pipe from Lowes and jumped up and down on the 3/4" breaker bar with and popped that damn nut loose. What I unfortunately discovered after pulling the rotor off was that the hub assembly prevents you from replacing studs, and it's a damn pressed in hub assembly. A desperate hour of slide hammering to pull the hub eventually lead me to destroying the bearing and hub which never actually came out. Now I have my spindle pulled from the car, waiting on a new hub and bearing from Honda, and then have to take it to a shop to repair.
I'm not the fastest mechanic so this took the majority of my weekend and has left me without a vehicle for a few days. All of this because my studs apparently are made out of playdough. Is anyone having such troubles with their studs breaking? I'm dumbfounded after being so incredibly careful with installing my lug nuts and torquing them to factor ratings. When I get the replacement hub from Honda I may bang out the studs and replace them with different ones from Advanced Auto. Also, does anyone ever apply anti-seize to their studs? I always heard this changes torque ratings and potentially can lead to studs loosening. *EDIT* Just to clarify I am NOT currently doing this.
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