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post #1 of 50 Old 02-03-2017, 07:14 AM Thread Starter
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Solved HFP Suspension Differences - Old vs New

Okay folks, solved the mystery around the differences of the old vs new HFP Suspension for the 9th gen coupes...you know what's are the difference between kits with part # 08W60-T3M-100 and 08W60-T3M-101.

After spending an hour of so sifting through parts diagrams and doing comparisons in EXCEL, turns out it's not very much.

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  • There are ZERO differences in the Dampers or Springs (F or R) for either the MT or AT kits
  • It's actually just the flange nuts that attach the Rear shocks to the shock tower which are different
  • So no advantage/disadvantage old vs the new

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Wow, what a price difference for two nuts!

Thanks for taking the time to investigate that.


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thanks for putting this together! I hope to pick up a set one day for my coupe. I see transmission makes a difference; can your or anyone confirm its the same kit regardless if you have a V6 or I4?
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This accessory is only listed for the V6 Coupe cars on all the Honda Parts diagrams/websites. It likely fits the 4 cylinders too, but there is no listing associated with those cars.

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thanks for putting this together! I hope to pick up a set one day for my coupe. I see transmission makes a difference; can your or anyone confirm its the same kit regardless if you have a V6 or I4?
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I had posted something back in November asking about the differences between the two suspension kits, and I was holding out for some more details such as typer_801 provided.

So yesterday, my search resumed, with the idea of purchasing the 08W60-T3M-100 kit, which several sources had assured me would fit on my 2016 Accord Coupe V6. During my search, I received this reply from a potential seller:

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Hello
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This suspension kit is not compatible with your 2016 Accord coupe. There is no sport suspension kit available for this vehicle.
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4475 Lincoln Avenue
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Hondapartsnetwork.com
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So, if the nuts are the only difference, why wouldn't this suspension fit?

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Because these parts counter folks simply look at what Honda lists and that part # clearly is not listed for the 2016. They're not going to go through the analysis I did to see if a part will fits other model years or what the differences are in the kits.

And FWIW, there are cheaper places to get the kit too. DIYSeller360 has the kit ending in ...101 for $719 INCLUDING shipping.


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Yeah, I found the kit ending in...101 from two other eBay sellers, but after contacting them learned, in both cases, that the kits were actually ...100. One even replied that there was no difference between the two, and that Honda wouldn't release the 101 kits until all the 100 kits were gone.

Thanks for the seller info. I'll go through the same drill, will contact them and wait for a reply (half the battle is seeing what type of reply they send, which often says a lot about their knowledge and willingness to help).

Have you ordered the kit and installed it yet?

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Buying a used kit from a local buyer (only 1K miles on it).

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Buying a used kit from a local buyer (only 1K miles on it).
Tried to PM you, no luck. I'd appreciate being kept informed of your progress.

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Will do, I'll post after I install.

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Oh wow that's very interesting. Just two bolts different, I already have the hfp setup so it doesn't make a difference for me however for future buyers may be interested in knowing this!
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for those who have installed these, how's the ride. I've tried searching for reviews (specific to 9th gen) and haven't found much. I'd like a very mild drop and it sounds like HFP is my only option, just curious how much stiffer the ride is compared to stock.

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Specific to 9th gen up to MY 15 isn't an issue. However, 9.5 gen (MY 16 and 17) might be an issue, depending on who you talk to.

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for those who have installed these, how's the ride. I've tried searching for reviews (specific to 9th gen) and haven't found much. I'd like a very mild drop and it sounds like HFP is my only option, just curious how much stiffer the ride is compared to stock.

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I have a 2015 Accord EX-L Coupe and wanted to bring it down to a nice height. I went with H&R Sport Springs which after approx 5k miles have sagged into a nice even drop of about 1" 3/4" in the rear and about 1" 1/2"in the front. I still have the stock 18" wheels on it and the ride is noticeably stiffer but not to the point that it is annoying. I would also recommend swapping out the rear sway bar for this one. The one from Throw Down Performance will run you just under $250 but well worth it in my opinion. Or you can go with the black 22mm one I purchased from Progress Auto for $175.





The one from Progress Auto is black and not white but I can tell you it is 1 1/2 times the size in diameter as the stock one. The link I gave you to the Throw Down Performance one is white and I believe is 22mm, but I would check with them first. You will definitely notice a much flatter ride in the rear of the car with very little body roll even under fast cornering. They also make one for the front strut towers at a very reasonable $150.



I also replaced the stock rear shocks with these nice KYB's



As for the fronts I left the factory struts on there knowing that I will have to replace them soon, I have just been waiting to one to come out that I like that is not a coil over. I would definitely look into the H&R springs as I had them on my 3-series BMW along with Bilstein struts and they never let me down, plus the price is very affordable.

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The HFP gives about a .8-.9" drop, and firms it up, but not annoying either.

Also, take F1's advice and upgrade the rear sway bar - The Progress 22mm bar does a great job for the money.


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