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post #1 of 13 Old 10-02-2014, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
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Ground Control for 9th gen coupe

Hello. I am looking for shocks to go with the GC coilover conversion kit. What shocks would go good with this? Would the 8th gen Koni shocks fit the 9th gen Accord coupe if not what would fit this kit that offers the same warranty and performance as Koni shocks?

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The 8th gen shocks will fit in the rear, but the front is an entirely different suspension type (macphearson vs double wishbone).

Why not go for a quality coilover setup instead, you're spending about the same price (e.g. Megan SS, Tein Advance, Ksport, BC)


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If I am correct, Ground control is teamed up with Eibach? Also, from my sources, aren't Megan and Ksport are exactly the same? I've also heard that they are ebay junk and they don't have good longevity. I also hear that their spring rates don't differ much from stock. Correct me if I'm wrong. But please keep to my question. What shocks will fit the GC coilover conversion kit? I'd rather not go with any other brand.
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The GC "coilover" kit uses eibach springs, but it's not a true coilover system; It's a sleeve that fits over the shock and you move the lower lock ring up and down compresses the spring, versus a regular coilover system that moves up and down based on the lower mount of the shock.

Megan and BC coils are manufactured by the same company so your source is wrong, and also their quality has improved, a lot of 9th and 8th generation accords run them or a number of other coilover brands, please don't make assumptions without proper research.

Stock Front Spring Rate: 183lbs/in
Eibach Spring Rate: 188-303lbs/in progressive spring
Megan Coilovers: 447lbs/in linear spring

Otherwise Truhart has sport shocks available for the 9th gen.

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Eh. Thanks but no thanks. I like progressive springs better. The stiff spring rates in the coilover kits seem too abusive on the car as a whole, especially for a MacPherson strut setup. Also, the TruHart shocks are shortened therefore demanding a setup that requires a "non adjustable" suspension. Which is pointless and defeats the purpose. I will just wait for a Koni release for the GC kit. In the meantime, I will keep using my factory shocks.
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Koni response

Might be a long wait.
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Might be a long wait.
But well worth it.

Much better than going with those "Made in Taiwan" coilover brands. Fyi, all the brands that were listed to me. No offense Danni3, why would you compromise your car by going with offshore factory parts?
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Much better than going with those "Made in Taiwan" coilover brands. Fyi, all the brands that were listed to me. No offense Danni3, why would you compromise your car by going with offshore factory parts?
Simply because I trust the years of experience other customers had with aftermarket coilovers than someone's thoughts simply because of their country of manufacturing.

Also Tein is manufactured in Japan and regarded as one of the highest quality coilover systems on the market.

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Scratch that. I forgot about the Tein's. But you don't have Teins. If this were a matter of chickens, I wouldn't get my chickens from Taiwan. GC's and Koni's are already reputable for drag setups.

There is a good reason companies make products offshore as well. Cheaper to make with cheaper quality metals and less regulations to follow. This also means that a lot of defective items get on the shelves. A lot of corporations do this.

Just contacted GC. They said they can set me up with whatever spring rate I want.
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GC + Koni is what I'm going to do.

The default spring rate for the GC is 8/6. Quite stiff, should be nice though paired with Konis. Eibach ERS springs are always a plus.

You can use Koni rears that are currently available for the 8th gen.

GC may be working with Koni to get front strut inserts made, but it won't be till after winter and it depends on what other R&D GC will be doing at the time.

If you are going to spend $1000+, then you should only be considering GC + Koni or TEIN.

Don't go for any of those Taiwanese 'true' coilovers.
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GC + Koni is what I'm going to do.

The default spring rate for the GC is 8/6. Quite stiff, should be nice though paired with Konis. Eibach ERS springs are always a plus.

You can use Koni rears that are currently available for the 8th gen.

GC may be working with Koni to get front strut inserts made, but it won't be till after winter and it depends on what other R&D GC will be doing at the time.

If you are going to spend $1000+, then you should only be considering GC + Koni or TEIN.

Don't go for any of those Taiwanese 'true' coilovers.
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I've driven on all kind of suspension set ups, from coilover sleeves on stock shocks/struts to full out best coilovers on the market.

why not just get TEINs ?



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I've driven on all kind of suspension set ups, from coilover sleeves on stock shocks/struts to full out best coilovers on the market.

why not just get TEINs ?
Mainly because I like the adjustability of the GC's and because my brother who used to drag recommended them. He had a sick B20 hatch, a Integra Type R, a rebuilt from pieces 1991 Interga LS, and a Turbocharged 2000 Civic Si. Now he just drives a E46 M3 coupe.
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