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post #1 of 19 Old 07-11-2010, 08:56 AM Thread Starter
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Retrofit from HIDIllusionz

Part 1 of 2, due to 5 pics/thread limitation.

I got my retrofit done by recently.

Their website is still work in progress, but they have a blog where they post their customer's work for approval.

Mine was posted when it was completed, before sealing up the headlamps.

The owner, Rich, and the installer Mike were fantastic on customer support and feedback. Before the retrofit, Rich called me to confirm and double check what I wanted.

Before I installed mine, I had some concerns (will address them below) and Rich immediately called me back. I know experiences vary from people to people, but I'm very happy with their support.

Items bought from HID Illusionz:

A pair of TSX Projectors

A pair of Philips 85122 D2S bulbs (4300K)

A pair of Minigun shrouds

A pair of OEM Matsushita Gen 3 Ballasts

Wiring harness (with relay and fuse)

A pair of brand new OEM Honda Accord headlamps (They got it from their own sources through a Honda dealership)

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Pictures of headlamp installed:

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Pictures of light output. Note that I couldn't find a nice white wall last night. Will update when I have more.

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Note: I know there's glare coming out, and I did mention to leave the reflector as it is. Perhaps I should have painted them black.

I was driving behind a friend last night, and he said he didn't notice the glare while driving.

Also, this is just from 1 person's perspective as we all have different levels of sensitivity to light.


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Looking good man.

I always want retrofit but can't pay the price

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Part 2 of 2.

More light output. My old camera didn't do it justice.

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Installation

The install was direct, remove bumper, remove old headlamps, figure out how to mount ballast and wiring harness.

I had some concerns, because of the wiring harness. So I did lots of reading in 30 mins and Rich called me to confirm them.

I found this picture which pretty much sums it up for me:

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NOTE: Thanks to Aviography for bringing up the mistake in the image I used for reference. I do have a 25A fuse in the harness which I bought. Added that in the image for reference.
NOTE: 1 BIG thing that made it clear, was that the harnesses use ONLY 1 bulb source plug, not both. I used the driver's side bulb source plug, and electrical-taped the passenger side.

I connected the red exposed wire directly to the battery:
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and I connected the black exposed wire to the grounding nut beside the battery:
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All in all, I'm happy with the results, though I wish I had gone with the black paint to reduce glare.

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Observation

HID Illusionz did lots of Gen 7 Accord retrofits before, hence my choice to go with them.

I know our headlamps only have up/down adjustment so i was worried the left/right adjustment would be off.

When I installed mine, I noticed at a distance, both cutoff points meet together. (it's like ___/----- instead of __/-- __/-- at, say 50 ft?)

In my previous Speed6, I could adjust both up/down and left/right, so I adjusted both to have broader width at length.

Not sure on this, but it's not really bothering me cause I'm loving the output.

Cost
This is a big area I took a risk on. I paid about $880 for the whole retrofit + $400 for new set of headlamps.

$400 for a set of OEM Accord Headlamps
$550 for TSX Projectors, Shrouds and Labor
$275 for Philips OEM Bulbs, ballasts and plug-n-play relay harness
$60-ish = shipping cost. (I rounded up the numbers).

It definitely cost me a bomb, cause I bought new headlamps too.

I'll try to answer as many questions as I can.

Would I recommend HIDIllusionz?

Yes.
Rich is incredibly patient with my relentless questions and concerns

I'm only affiliated to HIDIllusionz as a full paying customer.

Thanks!

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looks great man! i think the glare you see is only when youre close to the wall. i really dont think it will be glaring into other drivers. if you back up a little, like to 25ft, you wont see it at all. i was thinking of blacking out my reflectors too but decided not to and just blacked out the bezel. but it definitely looks OEM when you leave the "chrome". how much did it run you in total?
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Looking good man.

I always want retrofit but can't pay the price
Thanks man. Yeah, I know the cost is a lot. I paid for it cause I didn't have the tools to retrofit myself.

I took the jump cause I do lots of night driving through backroads to get to work (IT guy work FTL) and I felt it's going to be worth the added safety for me.

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Sorry, I re-edited my 2nd post to include breakdown of cost

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OP,

Just so you know, the wiring diagram with the relay kit doesn't show any form of protection from a fuse that I can see, so you are now likely at risk of serious wiring damage should something get shorted in the future.

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OP,

Just so you know, the wiring diagram with the relay kit doesn't show any form of protection from a fuse that I can see, so you are now likely at risk of serious wiring damage should something get shorted in the future.
Ah yes, the diagram didn't have a fuse. The one I had, has a fuse.

There's a 25A fuse just after the red exposed lead. Will take pics of it.

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That's good, although I still have an issue with the approach a single 25A fuse feeding both ballasts, since each ballast will not need anywhere near 12.5A, this means if one ballast fails or there is a short, the fuse won't blow until the wiring along the electrical path (which is not intended for 25A current), such as the portion from the relay to the ballast, are already damaged.

Ideally you should have a 10A fuse for each ballast, just like the Honda factory design has already done, what a novel concept, eh?

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Ah..yes makes sense. Hmm..something to think about for sure.

Which wiring harness do you recommend? I have no problems re-doing the wiring again now that I know how to take them apart confidently.

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See, here's the clincher, I DO NOT use these additional wiring harness!

I made this decision based on what I have eluded to in this thread, yes others have disputed with me but I stand behind my decision based on facts and logic as I have explained, I simply do not prescribe to the blind trust an aftermarket harness must be better.

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That's true. Something for me to look deeper into.

Thank you for your advise and bringing this up though. I really appreciate it

Found your old thread about your explanation here. Just in case others want to reference and understand your justification.

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oh wow, 400 for the headlights. but then again theyre new and they look much better than my $50 scratched up used ones. haha.

i have the 25A relay as well. hopefully i dont run into any troubles...
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Yeah. I'm so broke now

Figured if I'm gonna do it, might as well do it with new sets since I'm gonna keep the car for a long time.

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I also did mine through HID Illz. but after I helped do a quad retro for a buddy's civic, I am most certain I can do a retro on our cars just as good and probably even better than paying someone else to do it. It is just time consuming, something that I dont have much of. The glare is okay since it is nowhere as bad as HID reflectors and actually helps with vision at night. Even though Rich has a lifetime warranty on his OEM work, the verdict on my retro is out there.


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