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Talking 2.4L Engine Replacement Tips & Parts List

I recently replaced the engine on my 2007 7th Gen accord, due to it burning oil from bad oil control rings on the pistons. Through the process, I created a complete parts list of all the components I ordered in preparation for the repair.


I thought others on the forum might find it helpful as a baseline for what parts are needed for an engine swap. Anyone who would like the full version of this list is welcome to message me and I will send you a copy of the Excel spreadsheet with parts pricing.



NOTES:
I decided to replace the cylinder head with the engine block, but it probably wasn't necessary. There are several items on this list that I included, which can be considered discretionary. The Honda manual specifies that several of the bolts for the engine mounts should be replaced each time they are removed. Those parts are included in this list, but I don't think replacement was actually necessary for all of them. It did, however ensure that the bolts torqued down properly, without needing to clean them first.

Honda does use nuts in several locations that are self-locking (Part description notes the term "SELF-LOCK"). These nuts are crimped slightly on one side to make them tighter to the stud, allowing them to perform similar to a nylon lock-nut. As specified in the manual, these nuts should be replaced each time they are removed, as the locking function is diminished when you remove the nut.

I included a throttle body gasket in the list because I took the opportunity to remove and clean carbon deposits from the throttle body while I had it removed.

I took this opportunity to remove the torque converter and drain it to ensure I had a higher percentage of new fluid in the transmission. Sufficient fluid and the torque converter o-ring is listed below to perform this. (Added 10/26)

When removing and installing the engine, here are a few tips that I found made the process easier.
  • Remove the front bumper (provides better access)
  • Remove the Windshield Washer Fluid Reservoir This allows you to more easily position the power steering pump and reservoir out of the way (without disconnecting it) during engine removal/install
  • When disconnecting the exhaust; Do not remove the nuts connecting the flex-pipe to the Catalytic Converter they rust on and often require a nut splitter to remove. Instead, leave this connected.
    1. Remove the wire clips holding the wire for the downstream O2 sensor.
    2. Support the catalytic converter with a jack
    3. Remove the two bolts on the exhaust hanger immediately upstream of it.
    4. Slowly lower the jack to clear the exhaust pipe from the engine heat shields (ensures you don't accidentally catch the heat shields on it when re-installing the engine).

WARNING: (Added 10/26)
Chemicals in the assembly lubricants for new engines can ruin the oil pump seals if they aren't cleared out with an oil change shortly after new engine installation and a very short initial break-in period. If you miss this step, you may be replacing your engine a 2nd time due to oil pump failure!
My dealer's service department informed me that any time a new crate engine is installed; Honda recommends they complete the following steps:
  1. Run the engine for 30 min
  2. Drain the oil completely (While Hot).
  3. Remove the oil filter to drain the fluid inside it and then re-install. (I added this step)
  4. Re-fill the engine with new oil.

Sub-total $4,351.31
*Price match Discount ($237.78)
Shipping $240.00 *Freight to a residential address
Total Price $4,353.53
*I had Bernardi Honda price match the price from HondaPartSales.com for the engine and cylinder head assemblies

*Parts List Below, Quantities in Parenthesis.

Engine Assy. - Transmission Assy. (L4)
(1) - 10002-RAA-A04 GENERAL ASSY., CYLINDER BLOCK
(1) - 10003-RAA-A04 GENERAL ASSY., CYLINDER HEAD
Gasket Kit (L4)
(1) - 06110-RAA-A03 GASKET KIT, CYLINDER HEAD
Oil Pump (L4)
(1) - 13432-PNA-000 SPROCKET, DRIVEN (17T)
(1) - 13441-PNA-004 CHAIN (62L)
(1) - 13450-RAA-A02 TENSIONER, BALANCER SHAFT CHAIN
(1) - 13460-PNA-004 GUIDE, BALANCER SHAFT CHAIN
(2) - 90004-PNA-000 BOLT, CHAIN GUIDE
(1) - 90031-PNA-004 BOLT-WASHER (10X30)
(3) - 95701-06014-08 BOLT, FLANGE (6X14)
Camshaft - Cam Chain (L4)
(1) - 14401-PPA-004 CHAIN (176L) (BORG WARNER)
(1) - 14510-RAA-A01 TENSIONER ASSY., CAM CHAIN
(1) - 14520-RAA-A01 ARM, CAM CHAIN TENSIONER
(1) - 14530-RZA-A01 GUIDE, CAM CHAIN
(1) - 90003-PNA-000 BOLT, TENSIONER PIVOT
(3) - 95701-06020-08 BOLT, FLANGE (6X20)
(2) - 95701-06030-08 BOLT, FLANGE (6X30)
Chain Case (L4)
(1) - 11410-PPA-000 CASE ASSY., CHAIN
(2) - 90021-PNA-000 BOLT, SPECIAL (6X31)
(1) - 91333-PNC-006 O-RING
(10) - 95701-06030-08 BOLT, FLANGE (6X30)
(1) - 95701-06030-08 BOLT, FLANGE (6X30)
Water Pump (L4)
(1) - 18714-RAA-A01 GASKET, EGR PASSAGE
(1) - 19200-RAA-A01 WATER PUMP
(1) - 19301-RAA-A02 THERMOSTAT ASSY. (NIPPON THERMOSTAT)
(1) - 92900-10060-0B BOLT, STUD (10X60)
(1) - 92900-10100-0B BOLT, STUD (10X100)
(3) - 94050-08080 NUT, FLANGE (8MM)
(2) - 94050-10080 NUT, FLANGE (10MM)
(6) - 95701-06025-08 BOLT, FLANGE (6X25)
(2) - 95701-08045-08 BOLT, FLANGE (8X45)
(2) - 95701-10105-08 BOLT, FLANGE (10X105)
Throttle Body (L4)
(1) - 16176-RTA-004 GASKET, THROTTLE BODY
Radiator Hose - Reserve Tank (L4)
(1) - 19501-RAA-A00 HOSE, WATER (UPPER)
(1) - 19505-RAA-A00 HOSE, WATER (LOWER)
(1) - 19507-RAA-A01 O-RING
(4) - 19511-PH7-003 CLIP, HOSE (36.5MM) (CHUO SPRING)
Cylinder Head Cover (L4)
(1) - 12310-RAA-A00 COVER, CYLINDER HEAD
(1) - 15613-PC6-000 GASKET, OIL FILLER
(1) - 17153-RAA-A02 TUBE, BREATHER
(6) - 90213-PH3-000 NUT, CAP (6MM)
Intake Manifold (L4)
(1) - 17115-RAA-A01 GASKET, IN. MANIFOLD
(1) - 50933-SDA-A22 TUBE A, ELECTRONIC CONTROL MOUNT SOLENOID
(1) - 50934-SDA-A22 TUBE B, ELECTRONIC CONTROL MOUNT SOLENOID
(1) - 94050-08080 NUT, FLANGE (8MM)
(3) - 95701-08035-08 BOLT, FLANGE (8X35)
Exhaust Manifold (L4)
(2) - 90212-SA5-003 NUT, SELF-LOCK (10MM)
(3) - 95701-08022-04 BOLT, FLANGE (8X22)
(3) - 95701-10030-08 BOLT, FLANGE (10X30)
Exhaust Pipe - Muffler (L4)
(3) - 18176-PT0-003 BOLT, CONVERTER
(1) - 18229-S6M-003 GASKET, EX. FLEXIBLE
Engine Mounts (L4) (AT)
(1) - 90161-SDA-A01 BOLT, FLANGE (12X45)
(2) - 90163-SDA-A01 BOLT, FLANGE (10X35)
(3) - 90165-SDA-A00 BOLT, FLANGE (12X45)
(1) - 90166-SDA-A00 BOLT, FLANGE (12X80)
(2) - 90167-SDA-A00 BOLT, FLANGE (12X85)
(2) - 90168-SDA-A00 BOLT, FLANGE (12X125)
(1) - 90169-SDA-A01 BOLT, FLANGE (10X62)
(2) - 90178-SDA-A00 BOLT, FLANGE (10X16)
(4) - 90371-S87-A00 NUT, FLANGE (10MM)
(2) - 95701-12035-08 BOLT, FLANGE (12X35)
Water Hose (L4)
(1) - 19504-RAA-A00 HOSE, BYPASS INLET
(1) - 19508-RAA-A10 HOSE, THROTTLE BODY IN.
(1) - 19509-RAA-A10 HOSE, ROTARY AIR CONTROL VALVEOUTLET
(1) - 19514-RAA-A00 HOSE A, BREATHER HEAT
Engine Mounting Bracket (L4)
(2) - 90008-PNA-000 BOLT (10X75)
(1) - 90008-RAA-A00 BOLT, MOUNTING BRACKET (10X95)
Foglight Kit
(1) - 08V31-SDA-10130 FOGLIGHT SWITCH HARNESS
(1) - 08V31-SDA-10131 FOGLIGHT HARNESS
(1) - 08V31-SDA-1M035 SWITCH, FOGLIGHT
(1) - 98200-42000 FUSE, MINI (20A)
(1) - 90149-SE0-003 BOLT, GROUND (6X16)
(1) - 94103-06400 WASHER, PLAIN (6MM)
VTC Oil Control Valve (L4)
(10) - 90005-PNA-003 BOLT-WASHER (11X155)
(2) - 90026-PNA-003 BOLT, STUD (10X39.5)
(2) - 94301-14200 PIN, DOWEL (14X20)
Front Lower Arm
(2) - 90002-S10-000 NUT, FLANGE (10MM)
(2) - 90121-SM4-010 BOLT, SHOCK ABSORBER FORK (12X98)
(2) - 90215-SB0-003 NUT, SELF-LOCK (12MM) (SATO RASHI)
Knuckle
(2) - 94201-30220 PIN, SPLIT (3.0X22)
MISC
(1) - 15400-PLM-A02 OIL Filter
(1) - 44319-S84-300 SET-RING (28X2.0) **DRIVESHAFT**
(1) - 90305-692-010 NUT, SPINDLE (22MM) **DRIVESHAFT**
(1) - OL999-9011 COOLANT (TYP2 BLUE)
(5) - 08200-9008 FLUID(ATF DW-1)
(1) - 08718-0004 HondaBond (1.9 oz)
(1) - 17220-RAA-A01 ELEMENT ASSY., AIR CLEANER (BLUE)
(1) - 13622-RAA-A01 PLATE, CRANK PULSER
(1) - 90471-PX4-000 WASHER, DRAIN PLUG (18MM)
(1) - 91302-RNA-003 O-RING (35.5X1.9) ***TORQUE CONVERTER***

Items not listed, which you may want to consider, depending on mileage and recent repairs.
  • PCV Valve
  • Heater hoses connecting to the heater core at the fire wall.
  • Alignment Pins for mating the engine and transmission. There are two pins on the 2.4L engines both ~$1 each. One of the pins stuck in the engine when I removed the transmission and couldn't be removed without damaging it. *Note that the dealer informed me there are at least 3 different pin lengths, depending on where and when the car was manufactured. Look-up this part using your VIN #.
  • (2) - 18231-SR3-A22 - Exhaust Header bolts connecting the header to the flex-pipe.
  • Spark Plugs


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If you have a manual trans then a clutch change would be good. Great list but depending on mileage I doubt I would spend that much on a car and would instead put the money toward a lower mileage new car.


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If you have a manual trans then a clutch change would be good. Great list but depending on mileage I doubt I would spend that much on a car and would instead put the money toward a lower mileage new car.
I agree with your point, in most cases. In my case, however, the car only had 109k miles. I figured it was better to go with a new engine and know that I should make it at least another 100k miles before any major issues. I didn't want to chance another used car with unknown history.

PLUS... It was a good excuse to buy more tools. I bought a new 1/2" Dewalt Cordless impact wrench that was extremely worth it!

I could've shaved ~$1200 by not replacing the cylinder head, which puts this back into the range that more people might consider spending. Way better than another car payment!
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Anyone who would like the full version of this list is welcome to message me and I will send you a copy of the Excel spreadsheet with parts pricing.
I finally figured out how to add an attachment with the Excel spreadsheet, so here it is for those of you who are interested.
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Oh, so you're the guy selling the used engine on Craigslist



Thanks for posting the info BTW. Mine burns oil too, so I may be doing this at some point. But for now, switching to 5W-30 seems to have been at least a temporary solution for me.

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I do appreciate the list, however, most guys without the mechanical knowledge to DIY and are attempting this will find that $4.3k total will be severely inflated once they include the labor costs associated with that kind of work. For guys on a more limited budget, doing the rings and valve seals will fix the issue if your problem is severe oil burning.

You'll easily last 500k more miles with that work as long as you stay on top of your maintenance.

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Oh, so you're the guy selling the used engine on Craigslist


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Can anyone explain the price difference between the 4cyl short block and cylinder head assemblies on our Accords for different model years?

I'm particularly baffled why the 06-07 model year parts are so much less expensive than the 03-05 models. This was one of the driving factors that pushed me to just install a Honda crate engine on my 2007 Accord.

Short Block Prices (from Bernardi Honda)
98-02 Accord - 10002-PAA-A03 $3334
03-05 Accord - 10002-RAD-A11 $4284
06-07 Accord - 10002-RAA-A04 $1769
08-10 Accord - 10002-R42-A05 $3689
11-12 Accord - 10002-R46-A10 $1781

Cylinder Head Prices
98-02 Accord - 10003-PAA-A01 $1857
03-05 Accord - 10003-RAD-A01 $2574
06-07 Accord - 10003-RAA-A04 $1220
08-12 Accord - 10003-R5C-A01 $1555
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So, after all the engine work I did last year... I hit ice after cresting a hill yesterday morning and most likely totaled it (due to side airbag deployment).

If anyone is interested in purchasing the engine I installed, please PM me an offer. It has ~32k miles on the engine (installed at 109k miles and the car now has ~141k miles). Mostly highway miles due to my 60 mile commute to work. I will need to decide whether to purchase the car back from insurance at salvage price, depending on what parts offers I receive. The car also has front and rear TL-S swaybars installed, which would be available.
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that sucks, but you're da man for posting pic of carnage w/o being asked. good luck with the next ride.

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I'm thinking about buying another 2007 Accord... Hopefully one with low miles.
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