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post #1 of 20 Old 09-19-2008, 01:30 AM Thread Starter
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Is the front sway bar necessary?

I just got an 06 Accord LX Coupe 4cylinders (5speed) and just wanted to know whether replacing the front sway bar is necessary?

I only see people here replacing the rear sway bar from the Acura TL but non mentioned the front sway bar. Is the stock adequate? I hear that it's 25mm and it's a solid metal bar right?

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If you go with the 17mm rear swaybar IMHO you don't need to replace the front. If you want to go with the 20mm rear swaybar, I'd suggest replacing the front as well.

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I have the TL-S rear 20mm sway and the TL-S front 27.2mm and it is worth it. A dramatic improve in handling!

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Replacing just the front sway bar will make your Accord happy in really tight turns. Like Auto Xing it. It will point and shoot out of really tight corners at lower speeds better. But it could also make it pick up a inside rear wheel faster.

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For the rear sway bar, I needed these:

20mm bar parts needed:

1 of 52300-SEP-A11
2 of 52306-SEP-A11 (Stabilizer holder)
2 of 52308-S3M-A00 (Stabilizer bushing)


Do you guys have all the part numbers for the front 27.5mm sway bars?

Will I need the stabilizer bushing & holder for the front also? What about the bolts or can I reuse my old one?
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I would definitely recommend doing the front sway bar as well. I think the main reason most people don't do the front is due to the fact that it's a lot more difficult to replace than the rear. I don't have the part number for the front, but you will only need the sway bar and bushings. You can reuse your bushing brackets and bolts.
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doing just the front bar will increase the inherent understeer Honda already engineers into the Accord chassis. The car will seem to corner flatter, but it will overwork the front tires and in hard maneuvers it will push.

As stated in other replies, if you go with the standard TL rear bar you'll slightly reduce the understeer. If you go with the 20mm rear bar, you'll have a very good chance of snap oversteer, especially in fast side to side movements.

If you put in the biggest TL rear bar, you really should put in the 27.2 front, I went with the hollow bar to get some weight off the front end. I also had to put Ingalls camber correctors in the rear. My car has the HFP suspension and the extreme negative camber on the rear tires already had the rear end destablized. I had the alignment, set at half tank of fuel, to -.9 degrees camber, and 3 mm total toe-in. I wanted to ensure no snap oversteer with the ever so slight increase in total toe-in.

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I just got an 06 Accord LX Coupe 4cylinders (5speed) and just wanted to know whether replacing the front sway bar is necessary?

I only see people here replacing the rear sway bar from the Acura TL but non mentioned the front sway bar. Is the stock adequate? I hear that it's 25mm and it's a solid metal bar right?
First off, replacing the stock sway bars isn't "necessary". People do it to improve the handling of the car.

That being said, The Pope has good advice.

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Look here for more info:

Sway Bar Project
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and here's some instructions:
stabilizer bar replacement
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(click on the 'How to install" button in the upper right cornsr of the page)

Also the 2006 TL-S is hollow and the 2007 TL-S is solid.

2k6 front p/n 51300-SEP-A01
2k7 front p/n 51300-SEP-A21

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Replacing the front sway bar is not necessary.

Please correct me if i am wrong: I think the front sway bar is 25.4 mm hollow. I4 get a 14mm, but i think it is hollow.

v6 get a 13mm solid rear sway because i cut it.

i put 20mm solid rear sway for almost a month, i have not experienced any oversteer yet (VSA has not kick in either). Maybe due to a really nose-heavy model (V6 auto). Light understeer still accompanies with you though.

Yep, i avoid the front sway bar because of the complication and need a realignment after.

If other people say it is easy to get oversteer on I4 with 20mm rear, i would avoid it because I4 does not have VSA.
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Replacing the front sway bar is not necessary.

Please correct me if i am wrong: I think the front sway bar is 25.4 mm hollow. I4 get a 14mm, but i think it is hollow.

v6 get a 13mm solid rear sway because i cut it.

i put 20mm solid rear sway for almost a month, i have not experienced any oversteer yet (VSA has not kick in either). Maybe due to a really nose-heavy model (V6 auto). Light understeer still accompanies with you though.

Yep, i avoid the front sway bar because of the complication and need a realignment after.

If other people say it is easy to get oversteer on I4 with 20mm rear, i would avoid it because I4 does not have VSA.
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this is for the 8th gen coupe right?
Probably not... considering this is in the 7th gen forum.
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Does anyone know if there's a TL/CL swap for the front strut bars? I've read that a CL bar (74180-S0K-A00) can work on a 6th gen, but haven't been able to find anything on a 7th gen...
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Does anyone know if there's a TL/CL swap for the front strut bars? I've read that a CL bar (74180-S0K-A00) can work on a 6th gen, but haven't been able to find anything on a 7th gen...
Just get an Accord V-6 6-speed front strut bar, it's guaranteed to fit.


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