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Do i need relay harness for hid kit?
It is 35 watt 6000k ddm tuning hid kit and i have 09 accord 4 dr

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depends do you want to install them then a few months later start another thread asking why your lights aren't turning on. Be safe and smart get the relay. Also this topic has been covered many times so search before someone angry gets ya

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35w, you're safe. relays are for older cars because it will literally melt their factory headlight harness.

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2 years and going strong with 35W DDM kit and no relay harness, no issues what-so-ever.

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2 years and going strong with 35W DDM kit and no relay harness, no issues what-so-ever.
Oh alright thanks! Do you have relay harness?
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35w, you're safe. relays are for older cars because it will literally melt their factory headlight harness.
Thanks!
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2 years and going strong with 35W DDM kit and no relay harness, no issues what-so-ever.
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Oh alright thanks! Do you have relay harness?
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just get one. The new cars have way too many electronics inside of them. One power surge from the Ballast and your wiring will be the least of your problems. I h ave 3 fuse on my harness. 25 from battery 40 from relay, and another fuse on the + side going to the ballast.

I rather have it blow my 2 dollar fuse them screw up my car.
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Oh my bad i didnt see that haha
Well thanks and i think im actually getting APEXCONE RAPTOR HID KIT from ddm tuning website. Do you know anything about that hid kit?
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35w, you're safe. relays are for older cars because it will literally melt their factory headlight harness.
Thanks and your car looks great!
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just get one. The new cars have way too many electronics inside of them. One power surge from the Ballast and your wiring will be the least of your problems. I h ave 3 fuse on my harness. 25 from battery 40 from relay, and another fuse on the + side going to the ballast.

I rather have it blow my 2 dollar fuse them screw up my car.
Uh, did you know Honda already has a 10 amp fuse in-line for each headlight?

The fuses you are putting in, 25, 40, and whatever amperage fuse going to the ballast aren't going to work any better than the one Honda puts in for each headlight, in fact, the 25 and 40 amp fuses you are putting in, which is drawing current directly from the battery, will bypass the 10 amp OEM fuse, and fry the insulation off the wires before the fuse let go.......

The purpose of the relay is not to prevent surge from the ballasts, it is to (theoritically) minimize voltage drop to the ballast due to wiring gauge, however the 35W ballasts draw less current than the OEM halogen headlight once fully turned on, so the only (theoritical) advantage with the relay is to address the slightly higher in-rush current the ballasts draw when the ballast is being kick-started at the beginning.

That said, most modern-day ballasts don't draw that much more current on start-up anyway.

As stated in my own case, I reviewed the facts and the numbers 2 years ago and determined the relay harness isn't necessary, and I put my money where my mouth is by installing the kit without the relay harness.

The facts speak for itself two years later.

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I respect your opinion Aviography. But its the the initial voltage spike is the one thing I would worry about. I rather spend 20 bucks knowing that I have a peace of mind. I did 2 retros and all of them have harness. The + on the harness is you can have your headlights on and turn on your car. It will not flicker compared to directly plugging in to the oem sockets since it has it own power source. If your going to get a harness make sure its 14gauge. No 18 gauge ebay crap

But yeah its up to you since it's your car.
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